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    Default [B][/B]HOW TO FUCK ON FIRST DATE

    So lately I've been meeting girls at night clubs and what not. It doesn't really matter where I meet them. The girls that i've met out at clubs, i've kissed already, so there is obviously a barrier already broken there - I invited each of these girls back to my place some time later in the week after meeting them (1 girl at a time obviously) and I can usually lay them first time.

    My problem arises when I am meeting girls that I haven't kissed yet or I haven't actually been out with yet. The previous two girls i met with, i'd bantered with them on and off for some time on facebook/text. Finally I ask one of them to come back to my place for dinner.. casual fish and chips (no biggie).. then did some painting for a bit.. I ended up escalating with her and brushed her neck a bit.. then ended up kissing for a bit.. i ended up getting her to take her top off.. mind you, it sounds like i was being a massive creep, but i was doing it all in good humour. Soon, she said I have to go without an explanation (i'm not too sure if it was because she may have heard my housemate say she had to leave or what).. but i felt the vibe that i came on too pushy and sh1t.

    The other girl i'd met for a coffee one day, was a bit awkward but turned out alright. Then she texted me late one night after work. I asked her what she was up to.. she said she was driving around... so i told her to come over. We went for a bit of a drive, looked up some sh1t on youtube, played some instruments blah blah.. she ended up sitting on my lap, and i subtely kissed her on the neck. She turned around and blah blah, it was on. Then I took her top off.. she had no problem with it.. then I was just teasing her and making her want it.. then she said i really have to go (even though she wanted to stay).. i just ignored it haha.. kept going. This repeated for a while.. i ended up releasing her from my talons and she left. She texted me how bout we get to know each other a bit. I joked around a bit saying she was coming on too strong. Now she doesn't talk to me.

    I want to get the girl to the point where she forgets all her restrictions and constraints and just says screw it.

    What/where would be the best way to meet a girl so that you can escalate with her but not come off too sleezy or too strong?
    Last edited by daltz183; 10-19-2011 at 09:47 PM.

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    Default Re: Sealing the deal on first 'date', past couple of times i've f*cked up. How do I s

    Have you read the free report "The First Date Blueprint"?

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    Default Re: Sealing the deal on first 'date', past couple of times i've f*cked up. How do I s

    try some push-pull man. with the girls you haven't kissed before, why don't you try and stop the interaction when it starts heating up. try this on a girl you think is going to give you LMR...obviously if she's really into it push for the lay.

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    Default Re: Sealing the deal on first 'date', past couple of times i've f*cked up. How do I s

    This may or may not have anything to do with your situation, but I think it could fit in quite well.

    It may or may not be the first time we hang out, but it typically depends on the girl. A lot of girls hold this strict idea about "sex" and that it should be forbidden. The key phrase is "should be". However, this day and age, you look at TV and all you see is sex, sex, sex, sex, and more sex. It has become part of today's culture to accept it. There are kids the age of 12 and younger having sex. It isn't as much a taboo as it used to be, but, if you look at society as a whole in the past few decades, men have been able to express their openess about sexuality a lot more than woman were "allowed" to express their openess of sexuality. Look at Television over the past couple of years. All you would see are boobs, breasts, and butts. You rarely would see a man's behind on TV or in a movie. Now, you have more openess about it.

    Women have been raised to feel sex and sexuality are taboo for them. They have to "perserve" their innocence as long as they can. It is a game society has played on them because it is a male dominated world.

    Taken that into account, I bring up the topic of sex to a girl who I can tell is feeling me. I may say something like, "I don't understand why people make a huge stink about sex"... this leads to me basically describing the fact that sex is natural and is enjoyable and people have this negative few about it that they either never enjoy it, are scared to enjoy it, and are scared to admit they enjoy it. I don't get why people can't just have sex without having to make it all about the "emotions" and they just do it because it is a natural occurence between animals. Sex shouldn't be so much pressure but rather natural. Girls should be able to say, yes I enjoy sex, without having to be fewed negatively. (I include things I mentioned earlier about society)... I have successfully and on numerous occasions have had pretty much every girl agree with me on this. I even have a gal friend I told... "I don't understand why two people who clearly are good friends, care for each other, just have sex, cuddle for 30 minutes afterwards, make a sandwhich, and just enjoy that time, without having to get into the rights and wrongs of something like that." She agreed with me and now her and I are always hooking up and hanging out together.

    I also agree with a push and pull kind of thing. Make the girl feel like she wants it more than you do. She will try in her every power to persuade you (even though your mind is already made up) that you want her.

    Another thing I have noticed is that if you talk about sex in a natural and normal way, a girl feels more at ease about the topic and the act. Making it natural and normal makes them put down their guards

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    Default Re: Sealing the deal on first 'date', past couple of times i've f*cked up. How do I s

    Interesting post Hyde. I have been looking for different ways to crack LMR since I have been getting a lot of it recently, and I did have an idea that is similar to what you just described. Mine was also a monologue of sorts where I talk about how fragile life is and remind her that unexpected things happen all the time and the world could easily end in an instant (although somehow deliver it without a doomsday undertone so she doesn't just get depressed haha), and that we need to live for the now, have fun, lose our inhibitions etc. Good to know that a similar approach has worked for you.

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    Default Re: Sealing the deal on first 'date', past couple of times i've f*cked up. How do I s

    In essence, it is just completely true though. We live once, we all make mistakes, but it's the living and mistakes that help us define who we want to be. So why not just go out and do what you desire and want (barring you don't want to become a mass murderer or something and it needs to be things within morals and norms). But, it is ok to be open about things. Like, how many times have we gone to bars, wished we had that kiss with a girl or whatever and we didn't because we were nervous (especially in the beginning of a PUA life). We regret it. We always live with the should of, would of, could ofs. Girls do too. So all it takes is a little push and word play to realize that they also desire similar things.


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