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    MisterFabulous is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default I would appreciate some suggestions for improvement

    So i am am a college student. basically every day from 1030-530 i am either in class or at work. I work for computer labs around campus(basically get paid to do homework and play flash games). I really do need time to study outside of class also. So I was hoping i could get some tips general or specific on how to get myself to be better at talking to women. Also i should note that i go out every friday and saturday to parties and such. i usually talk to a couple of girls but i either cant think of stuff to say so i opt out of the conversation or im not really being flirty anyway. Sorry if this is worded really bad, honostly im a little confused about what exactly im asking but any tips or anything would be appreciated. (also i should note that i have read up a little on PUA, and understand some basics but my approach/opening is really bad)

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    Default Re: I would appreciate some suggestions for improvement

    You just need to force yourself to open sets. The more you open the easier it gets. The first few sets of the night are the most difficult, then it gets easier after that. What is bad about your opening? The most important thing is to make it look like you are not hitting on a girl with your opener. Then you need to keep going.

    If you want to improve your openers then make a point to go out and open 20 girls when you go out. Instead of worrying about carrying the conversation on, just open them and then say "well you have a good evening after you open them up." It will help you get more comfortable. Also you have to make a point to not care if you get shot down or not. Seriously, everyone gets shot down sometimes, and there are many reasons that it happens.
    There is no such thing as rejection, only feedback.

    Be the flame, not the moth.

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    Default Re: I would appreciate some suggestions for improvement

    I was going to say the same thing, then I see Tropics already wrote it. Good stuff

    Tropics is exactly right. Don't worry about perfect openers, just start talking to everybody. Guys, girls, 5s, 9s, whatever. High five the guys or cheers your drink with them and say hey what's up. Once you start talking to some people it gets much easier and it builds social proof when everyone sees you being social already.
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    Default Re: I would appreciate some suggestions for improvement

    I actually already don't care whether or not I would get shot down, but I didn't want to just keep getting shot down without making progress, thanks for the great advice I really appreciate. Hopefully this halloween will be a crazy one

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    Default Re: I would appreciate some suggestions for improvement

    Oh and as for my bad openings, its mostly when girls are in there little groups together I don't really know how to insert myself

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    Default Re: I would appreciate some suggestions for improvement

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterFabulous View Post
    Oh and as for my bad openings, its mostly when girls are in there little groups together I don't really know how to insert myself
    You need to approach the entire set. Say something that makes it seem like you are not hitting on any of them. Pay more attention to the girls that you are not targeting. Neg your target when she tries to interject into the conversation.

    Also throw in some disqualifers , IOD's and when she gives you IOI's you can give little ones back.

    Then once you have the set hooked, work to isolate your target, build comfort, and then number close or if it is going extremely well kiss close.
    There is no such thing as rejection, only feedback.

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    Default Re: I would appreciate some suggestions for improvement

    Awesome thx for all the great advice in this and my other thread, I really appreciate it.

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    Default Re: I would appreciate some suggestions for improvement

    A good mindset that a woman friend of mine told me about was, 'Smile, and don't care'. SMILE! You don't look like an axe murderer when you do smile, and don't care if they don't like you. You're an amazing guy. As Tropics says, 'Be the Flame, not the Moth'. Be interesting, creative, funny, and try to stay sober (mostly). I have had really good luck opening sets with a beautiful woman by my side, already having demonstrated Social Proof with her. The girls in the set will say something to her about her style or dress (they are attracted to a sexy black woman) , and usually open up to us. My wing-woman is my FWB too, she ends up with numbers from some of the lesbian gals we open too! (She's bi). All good advice from Baron and Tropics. rep+ you guys rock!
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    SMILE , and Don't care.

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    Default Re: I would appreciate some suggestions for improvement

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiskcub View Post
    A good mindset that a woman friend of mine told me about was, 'Smile, and don't care'. SMILE! You don't look like an axe murderer when you do smile, and don't care if they don't like you. You're an amazing guy. As Tropics says, 'Be the Flame, not the Moth'. Be interesting, creative, funny, and try to stay sober (mostly). I have had really good luck opening sets with a beautiful woman by my side, already having demonstrated Social Proof with her. The girls in the set will say something to her about her style or dress (they are attracted to a sexy black woman) , and usually open up to us. My wing-woman is my FWB too, she ends up with numbers from some of the lesbian gals we open too! (She's bi). All good advice from Baron and Tropics. rep+ you guys rock!
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    Yeah man! That is actually part of taking down the bitch shield. I am reading about that in "The Pickup Artist" by Mystery right now. He says to take down the bitch shield.

    50% - Act like you aren't hitting on them.

    25%- Smile

    The final 25% Demonstrate Higher Value, and look cool.

    Then the shield is down and your chances are up!
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    Default Re: I would appreciate some suggestions for improvement

    Its good i found this.
    I have a question for, In The Tropics, Xiskcub and Baron
    So is it safe to say that on the approach and on to the opener, if i were to be angsty, or were to have any kind of fear of rejection whatsoever(whether i show it or not) the girls will likely send me the go away vibe?
    With respect to tropics saying, my feedback is: Ok i was at the mall with my brother atleast a halph an hour ago, we were ther for a while and i opened 7 different sets... -1 because she blew me off. But the others were interested from opening (yes i was feelin some fear) and i could practically see them losing interest within minutes ( i started to feel the vibe) so i closed and left. This has been happening alot now.
    So i'll go off my hunch that its true.
    But then what should i do about it. How do i push past those inner things.
    My first thought is to just keep at it the approach and opening.
    Any advice?


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