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    beenderew is offline PUA in Training
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    Default need help with openers

    i only want to open with - hey, how ya doin'? and i know that i cannot do this. what can i do? openers seem to be impossible for me.

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    Default Re: need help with openers

    where are you trying to open?

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    Default Re: need help with openers

    i live in a small town for now where i only go to one bar. i was approached by the best looking girl in the room but didn't strike up a conversation because of the 3 second rule. but i was approached by another and played a game of pool with her. still, i didn't know what to say to the more attractive one because everything i've learned from Strauss's Game didn't really allow for what i was looking for. i wanted to talk to her but i paid too much attention to the 3 sec rule. besides, i looked down and you're supposed to look to the side. all in all, small town game is a bit more difficult. i am always surprised however, at the reaction i get from dhv, negs, and push/pull. but all in all, it's slim pickings. i've read somewhere that just being friendly will work as an opener but i'm skeptical. it's not that i'm afraid of bitch shields is just that i'm still a noob.

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    Default Re: need help with openers

    firstly, don't worry about theory like the 3 sec rule while you are out. It doesnt help! if you are after openers to use in a bar then i would suggest having the "hey, how ya doing" as a default if you cant think of anything better. i dont think a canned line is good as it makes you seek their reaction from the start. Focus all your mindpower on: what can i tease them on? just find something they are doing or wearing and tease them, even if you have to make it up. for example, with a straight face, just say, "i like your dress, my nan was wearing the same one earlier".

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    Default Re: need help with openers

    excellent. thanks for the advice.

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    Default Re: need help with openers

    a small town. ohh no NEGs man. leave that stuff alone.

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    Default Re: need help with openers

    hey how u doin is excellent actually but then u have to continue with direct approach.

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    Default Re: need help with openers

    my only concern is that it doesn't stand out from the crowd. is it better to do direct or indirect approach? direct approach is more natural to me but i'm intrigued with opinion openers.

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    Default Re: need help with openers

    I advise getting a diary, practise doing just direct approaches for 2 weeks etc. then doing the same for indirect approaches and record all your results.

    then post them back here, will be interesting!

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    Default Re: need help with openers

    well i read the game in 2006 and now i'm here. i honestly don't get much interaction with women. i want to say that i come from a relatively impoverished state but i cannot. i go to bars but it's not the same as when i was in college. it's kind of a culture shock that has affected my game entirely. but i can give you an example of a direct approach i had and an indirect approach. i know one time i asked a random girl what state we were in and she told me with a smile. then she moved on. an indirect approach was where i was making eye contact from across the room and she approached me after several minutes. i read a lot of this stuff and i was adhering to the 3 sec rule. but another indirect approach came from when i was peacocking. had on a nice shirt and she approached me for a game of pool. i think i reached the hook point, got a name but continued to iod, and disqualify her. i could've hooked up with her but i completely neglected the pull part of push/pull. maybe i'll see her again friday night.

    another direct approach was when i was at a college party and the conversation when something like, "blah, blah, blah" and she said, "oh that's nice," and the some more blah blah and before you know it i'm heading back to the dorms to fuck her. this was of course after seeing her before. i did the five questions game to one of her friends and i think that really helped.

    another indirect approach was when there was this one girl (college again) and i pretended to be really interested in what she had to say. we played beer pong and after some kino and escalation i told her that there was something i wanted to show her on one of my computers in the backroom. we took a shower and slept together. could've fucked her but needed a condom. that's how i roll.

    another direct approach was when i asked this girl if she wanted my cup for free beer at this party. i kind of over ioi'd her but escalated into caveman by groping her ass and dated her for like a week. she wouldn't put out after i took her to a nice restaurant so i dumped her. of course, i was being a nice guy and was quite easy on her.

    but i will admit that good looks and a physique will get you more girls than not. they'll be approaching you or all you will have to say is hey and strike up a conversation. i did have this one girl in high school that lead to lots of kino (way before i even knew about the game) but i never got to kiss her. she was more of the pua than i was. those were my days of being a classic romantic. poetry, nice words, talks on the phone, all that rubbish.

    recently, i listened to the art of seduction by robert greene and learned some things, applied them and she rejected me but later wanted to "just talk". i told her that it was up to her and never heard from her again. this was over the internet however, and there's no eye contact or possibilities for kino on the internet. greater challenge indeed.

    but my first lay came as a result of being a friend of a friend. back to the dorms, lost the v-card, slept with her and realized that good sex comes with practice. i'm 24 now and ready for more cold approaches. i never finished college either so i'm looking to go back to that, since this small town is limiting my potential.


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