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    Default Age old question: to swoop or not to swoop on a bro....need some guidance!

    So first of all I've asked plenty of questions here and so far I haven't been steered wrong so thanks alot to the guys who take the time to respond to my questions =)
    PS: sorry if this is long!

    ANYWAYS back to the issue at hand. I think this girl digs me and she has given me some vibes however, my buddy is interested in her. About a month ago I go out with my buds to a bar and turns out they brings girls and they introduce me to them and one of them is quite fond of me and talks to me all night and completely ignores my buddy she came with. I talk to him about it and he tells me that he likes her so as a good bro i decide to back off.
    The reason I think she likes me is because of all attention and IOIs she gave me PLUS she was quite interested if I ever wanted a girlfriend and she asked me if I was looking and I said yeah but havent found the right girl she says: " well...I dont know about that" and she wants to go to a dance club with me and drink so yeah thats kinda where i get those vibes from(unless if i'm reading too much into it let me know.)
    So I know my buddy likes her, but idk if she likes him back and I dont know if i should swoop because he has had about a month to make a move. some advice would do great and i trust you guys will steer me right again!

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    Default Re: Age old question: to swoop or not to swoop on a bro....need some guidance!

    In pua rules, once your buddy has tried and gets shot down you are welcome to try, he does get "dibs" so to speak

    I would say talk to him, tell him you'll stay back if she's into him, but tell him to man up and invite her on a date, something obvious like a movie
    Get him to agree that if she flatly rejects, it's your turn

    Your friends will stay around longer than a girl does, so don't go behind his back here, but he can't tell you to stay off indefinitely if he is dilly dallying on it
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    Default Re: Age old question: to swoop or not to swoop on a bro....need some guidance!

    Movies are terrible for a first date. There's little interaction, so little comfort, trust and sexual tension can be built up, and kino will feel weird and forced.

    If you're a true bro, and you're following The Red Baron's advice, tell him to ask her out but disadvice the movies. Something playful like bowling is a lot better.

    Of course you want the girl, but you don't want to secretly make the chances for the bro smaller. They come first. So support him first.

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    Default Re: Age old question: to swoop or not to swoop on a bro....need some guidance!

    Of course movies are a terrible date following traditional pickup

    But bowling is ambiguous and any of the dates a real pua would use allow the girl to think it could be just a friendly activity

    If the guy is pussy footing he needs to be a bit more direct.

    They go bowling, he fails to make a move, situation doesn't change
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    Default Re: Age old question: to swoop or not to swoop on a bro....need some guidance!

    Well sure, but he didn't state anywhere that his friend is a PUA. He might not even be one himself, as he's only got three posts so he might just be here to ask for help from time to time. Only very few people are PUA's and a lot more people than that get girlfriends. PUA is not the one and only right way with women. (BTW the guy already took her to a party along with other friends, which can be seen as a friendly activity).

    The thing with a lot of AFC's is that they don't know whether a girl is interested or not. That's the scary part. Once they say yes to an invite for a date, there's interest and a reason to 'go for it'.

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    Default Re: Age old question: to swoop or not to swoop on a bro....need some guidance!

    Thanks guys for the help! definitely makes me feel better about making my decision. I'm going to help my bro out and if he doesn't get it THEN i'll come on in.


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