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    Default Rejected by cute girl working at a yogurt shop

    Hey guys,

    Saw this cute girl working at a yogurt shop and went in with few of my friends to buy some yogurt. She took a small cup and allowed us to sample all the different favors. Until the end when I was making payment, I decided to start a conversation and this is how it went.

    Me: hi, are you local?
    Her: Erm, no.. Why ?
    Me: I just thought u looked really cute. Can I have your phone number ?
    Her: can I say no?
    Me: hmm, alright. Thanks !

    Can anyone tell me what went wrong and how should I have tackled the situation ?

    Thanks in advance !

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    Default Re: Rejected by cute girl working at a yogurt shop

    Don't take it personally, but everything was wrong.

    Why?

    The second thing you have ever said to her is asking for her phone number. In her eyes, that would be way too fast, and a bit creepy. She isn't going to give her phone number to you just because you called her "really cute". Attractive women will make men work for them. THIS is where Pick-Up Artistry (PUA) comes in to play. As she tries to make you work for her, you can flip the situation into a 180, where she is now working to get you instead. We can definitely help you, however we need to know what your answer is for my small paragraph below this one.


    I'm not sure if you're familiar with PUA. If you are, please let us know your scale of knowledge in PUA. We can assist you a lot better from there.


    What you want to do, is start an indirect opener. This can be something such as an open-ended question, opinion question. Try not to make it too bizarre during day-game, as women are not at a club, and aren't looking for, or expecting men to start hitting on them.

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    Default Re: Rejected by cute girl working at a yogurt shop

    i have read a little on PUA and found that most context doesn't apply to asian society.

    at that point of time, i did know that i shouldn't have been so direct. but i didn't know what to say and was pretty nervous, i just shot out that question.

    in my scenario,
    1) could anyone advice what should've been done instead ?
    2) what kind of questions i should've popped, would something like "which flavor of yogurt do you like most?" suffice ?
    3) and would there be a second chance of hitting on the same girl ?

    thank you

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    Default Re: Rejected by cute girl working at a yogurt shop

    you can definitly be presistant if you want. but you pretty much farked yourself.

    re-read what you said. "hi, your cute, can i call you." works in the movies not in real life.

    you coulda made a remark about having to actually pay for the yogurt, and then spun it off into a lil rapport building excersie then asked for her number. basically you needed more of a conversation then what you had. make her laugh, make her want to work for you. like stated above

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    Default Re: Rejected by cute girl working at a yogurt shop

    Hi, Pardon my ignorance as im really new to this, but what would be a good example?

    E.g
    Me: hey, u mean I actually have to pay for the yogurt ?
    Her: erm, yes?
    Me:

    Thanks all !

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    Default Re: Rejected by cute girl working at a yogurt shop

    You have to build the rapport first before making the paying comment or else it will be as awkward as you wrote. Joke around with her (about the job, how slow it is etc). Ice cream/yogurt shops are gold cause if they get anything on their clothes you can neg them about it. Ask her what she recommends and when she tells you her favourite choose another flavour. You are just trying to build a bit of solid ground before you close. Those are just some ideas for you.

    Cheers.

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    Default Re: Rejected by cute girl working at a yogurt shop

    Quote Originally Posted by markltl View Post
    i have read a little on PUA and found that most context doesn't apply to asian society.
    This quote just irked me. Ive dated almost exclusively Asian women, from the US and outside, and before and after learning about PUA. I live in an Asian neighborhood and PUA has done nothing but help me. Only difference I see is that Asian women might be more loyal to their man once they find one. But while they're single that's not a problem, and especially if they're Americanized.

    As for your pick-up, it really was so typical that you were basically asking her to reject you. In a situation like this, I would sort of lean on the counter sideways to DHV, then ask her an open-ended question like

    "so what do you do when you're not servin yogurt?"

    Her: "Go to the movies, exercise, go out to eat."

    "Do you like company when you go out to eat or do you like to eat by yourself?"

    Her: HAHA Of course I like company

    "We should go out sometime."

    Her: Either "OK" or "Hmmmm, IDK"

    "How bout I just call you and well decide later?


    THis is how I would do it, don't know if it follows the PUA rules exactly cause I'm new, but it has the basic idea. Any critique of my example would be nice.

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    Default Re: Rejected by cute girl working at a yogurt shop

    Hey man, I saw your thread and to be honest... you did a ton of stuff wrong, but I give you credit for having the balls to approach her.

    Here are some things you need to fix...

    First, you can not directly approach your target in this case (despite some of the crap programs are teaching these days)

    Why?

    Going up and directly saying 'Hi' puts all the power in her hands. It is like letting the other football team have 14 points before you kick off! You need to try in this case what some gurus call the 'fated encounter' in which you take your time outside her personal zone for awhile ex: waiting in line...then after a minute or so move into her personal zone (2-3 feet away) and comment on something in the situation.

    The key is to acknowledge that she sees you (using side vision...NEVER directly face your target in a public place) then talk to yourself out loud in a convincing way around her. An example is: Does this place have blueberry? Thus, forcing her to respond back to your thinking out loud statement.

    If she doesn't hear or doesn't want to respond back that's ok...just say 'excuse me' and repeat the question to her WITHOUT facing her head out (thus giving up subconscious power) That starts the interaction at an even level..in which you can dive into rapport and such to screen her before asking for the number.

    Remember..the key to picking up women is not about what you say..as how you say it!

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    Default Re: Rejected by cute girl working at a yogurt shop

    too direct, almost came off like a creeper.
    Need some fluff at least, maybe some push pull.

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    Default Re: Rejected by cute girl working at a yogurt shop

    Just be cool say hello and if u get a date ignore her for a couple days then call her.


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