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    Default Re: How to make this girl my girlfriend. Long post

    Excellent advice, standing around, being an average chump teddy bear is no good. She texted me at 430am with "you smell" something that is very immature and gives me the sense that she had no idea what to say so resorted to that nervous response. I replied with "pft, woman; you love how I smell" (which she does because I always make sure to spray some sort of cologne on whenever out with her or any interest of mine and she has stated many times in the past she loves the type of cologne I use) No response; now at 930 am she says "hey boo" "what are you up to today, want to watch breaking bad with me?" The timing of this text is important because usually she will wait until 1pm or 12pm to text me to do anything. After she gets her workout done. It probably means I am on her mind and she couldn't wait to text me ASAP. I am just trying to figure out a smooth response right now, I have a teeth cleaning at 245 so I'll probably just say "sure but I have somewhere else to be at 245" I would love to say something more aggressive but can't think of anything like for example "sure, but what do I get for keeping you company?" To me that is WAY too straightforward and will A) lose some of the comfort I have built up with her or B) scare her off/make her feel uncomfortable having me over alone in her house. Let me know what you guys think. The smooth talking alpha male texts obviously work on her; I just don't have a lot of practice or material. It is also going to be super hard to implement the Push Pull techniques in person on her. I am so attracted to her; the hardest part is going to be pulling, gotta do it though.

    I also agree with the advice about just having an overall good time at the club and if she does talk to other guys TOTALLY ignore it and even say "I'll give you some space" she is the type of girl that would get driven nuts from that type of interaction.

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    Default Re: How to make this girl my girlfriend. Long post

    mate i just like playing with womens head, all the mind tricks i use have devasting affects though, women tend to get too clingy, so when taking my advice just becarefull you dont over do it like i do and get them hooked so deep the plyers cant get it out, its good in the first stage but dont constantly use it, remember to switch it all up.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: How to make this girl my girlfriend. Long post

    Update of the day; don't really think I got anywhere today. If anything I feel like I might have set my self back but I DID get some important information from her drunk self

    She asked if I wanted to watch tv with her in the morning as stated above I replied with "I can't I have somewhere to be at 245" She blabbed about me being lame and that's when she would want to watch it around that time (that's when her Mom gets home I really wouldn't have gotten anywhere anyways). She texts me around 3pm asking if I wanted to chill later I should text her that she has plans but I"m welcome to join in on them. I find out she is drinking wine and beer with 2-3 guys. I don't reply for 30 minutes she replies with "fine. don't reply. Ass." I reply 10 minutes later with "not my kinda thing, if you want to have some actual fun meet me up at the bar I'll be at later" She asks what bar blah blah blah she says she is having a fire I should stop by later.

    I stop by the fire there are 3 guys all chill. One def trying to get somewhere with her but not a threat (she wasn't diggin him at all) She is starting at me the whole night I just ignore her. She flirts with me with her eyes, ignore it. She gets me a beer and strokes my hair, meh. EVERYTIME I brought up downtown to the other guys there it drove her insane. She stated that our mutual friend Matt texted her and told her that I said it was funny I was bringing another girl because she always wanted to go. She said it really pissed her off and that it wasn't fair she got a sh1tty bar and this other girl got this nice diner and she said she didn't like where it was going. When I questioned her she said "you figure it out" Next time I mentioned how all downtown girls are hot, she flipped me the bird and told the one of the other guys "yeah he always goes downtown and never invites me even though he knows I want to go with him!"

    I finally left because I was so damn bored and this other guy was all over her all night (not that I was jealous was just bored sitting there not being able to really use any game because I don't know how; especially when there are other guys present one of which is all over her) I can't figure out if I set myself back by showing up or if what I said actually made things better. Def glad I got that info out of her while she was drunk though and before I left she gave one of the guys a normal hug and for mine she jumped up on me and wrapped her legs around me. Right before leaving I said "oh and when you think you can handle downtown you just let me know " and left with that.

    The only reason I believe I set myself back is because she texted me earlier saying "You should come I would like to see you" then in another text said "come if you want" In my opinion this shows weakeness by giving her what she wants and allowing her to see me, especially when it's boring me with 3 other guys there talkin my ear off. I think that the guy should always bring the girl out so that he has the power and authority to decide what to do and the girl is being led by him and feels protected and secure. Let me know what you guys think. I am going to ask her today if she can make it downtown on Fri. She might not be able to because she was talking about going to one of the guy's 21st that was there tonight. She will either blow it off or kick herself in the ass for not coming though since she blatantly stated she wants me to bring her.

    Overall the guy is not a threat. They are alone right now and maybe they will hook up maybe not I don't really care. This whole don't give a fark attitude is wonderful. Maybe I should have flirted back with her a little bit. I was just so not in the mood tonight though. I have decent game when alone with her but when there are 3 guys there and no girls it's a bit weird to openly flirt with her with all 3 of them watching. I really shouldn't care, a true pua wouldn't but I still feel super awkward at this pt in learning. I was going to text her something but caught myself. Even I know that texting right after seeing a girl is a HUGE no no and what I was going to say would be even worse "have fun with that guy " I know she doesn't want to hook up with him but by sending that it would show that I CARE and am THINKING about it which I don't want.

    Just gotta get her downtown, show her a fun time, see what happens, if nothing happens there hang out with her 1 on 1 shortly after so the experience is still fresh in her mind.

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    Default Re: How to make this girl my girlfriend. Long post

    Hey Bud,

    DOnt over think stuff!! YOu have that "don't give a FUCK" Attitude going pretty strong! Don't lose it!.... If you reread your post a couple times you will notice that all your basically asking is for REASSURANCE from the PUA COmmunity that you "did everything right" or that you "didn't mess up your chance"!!!.... Im here to tell you that you DONT need that reassurance bro... And the truth is it doesn't matter if you occasionally mess up or send the "wrong" text. You can recover. The only way you can't recover is if the Attraction wasn't big enough to begin with in the first place. So eventually it would of never been... After you have an experience with her, Forget about it!!! don't overanalyze every word she said. Just ALWAYS ASSUME she is ATTRACTED to you and go from there. Right now just concentrate on getting her out with you and your buds to a spot downtown and have a good time!!
    CHeers bud,

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    Default Re: How to make this girl my girlfriend. Long post

    True. Whatever happens happens in reality. Hung out with her last night. She called me crying and I got some food with her after work. I figured it was time for some pull. I guess she had a painful biopsy done and from the sounds of it the other dude she was into is done with her or pissed her off. She said after yesterday night she thinks she is going to stay here and not move away again. I told her that's a good idea that she should do what she wants to do an stop letting guy's influence her life decisions when in the end she probably isn't going to end up with them in the long term. After that we watched some tv, she was all over me as usual. I tried to sound smooth by saying "oh you're not going to get a kiss tonight now" but she kinda saw through it and said she doesn't like how I am trying to act like a badass it's not who I am. She has known me forever, I guess she knows who I really am and from the sounds of it likes that guy better than Mr. badass so I'm either just going to be myself or incorporate little things into my personality. At the end of the night she gave me two super long hugs. I pulled away first.

    Only downside is that she can't make it downtown tonight because she needs to recover from the operation :/ guess I'll have to figure something else out. All my friends and I are going to be at a really fun kegger and block party next weekend so I'll probably invite her to that and maybe downtown the day before since downtown realistically will look a lot better then just bringing her to a kegger.

    Oh! and one more important thing! She is still pissed that the other made up girl got to go downtown to dinner and she hasn't. She said she has known me for 6 years and she gets some crappy bar while this other chick gets a nice downtown dinner. I just said "what? do you think you are more important than her or something?" She gave me a flirty look.

    Things are going good just looks like it is going to take some time. I haven't kissed her in quite a long time so going to start back from there I guess. Gotta rewind a bit. Thanks for all the advice everybody.

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    Default Re: How to make this girl my girlfriend. Long post

    Hey Bud,

    -I have a few questions for you. When you say she was "all over me" does that mean she was trying to kiss you/fuck you? .... If so, why didn't you proceed?

    -Then you say you haven't kissed her in a while??? Im confused.

    Im seeing a pattern here. Whenever she is lonely, or pissed off at her man, or depressed or in pain SHE goes to YOU!.... Now, she is not fucking you. She is not kissing you. Is she at least buying you dinner or cleaning your room? THis is screaming more and more FRIENDZONE than ever bro. You can't be her shoulder to cry on when she;s sad. You CANNOT try and be her psychologist and solve her problems.

    You keep on reiterating that she's pissed off about you not taking her to a fancy restaurant. But imagine it from a FRIENDS point of view. What if your best friend always went to DIsneyland, and you LOVE Disneyland and he never invited you to go? ... You'd probably be pissed off to, and a little jealous, even though he is a guy and you don't want to fuck him! You see what Im getting at? If you read into these things and ASSUME attraction, it is good. BUt you have to act on it. Like, you seem Happy that you got 2 long hugs at the end of the night. YOu should be happy when you get two long Blow Jobs at the end of the night. you know what I mean??

    Also, you don't have to be a bad boy. BUt, yes, like you said incorporate some of these bad boy traits(freeze outs, seeing other girls, not responding to txts etc..). These will make you come off as a little bit of a bad boy. YOu don't have to buy a harley and get a tattoo is what I'm saying. Thats a FRONT in most cases.

    I mean it kind of pisses me off that she invited you to her house when 3 other dudes where there and one was all over her!! I give you PROPS for not Reacting!! good job. But you have to think "what the fuck is going on in her head"? .... She knows you like her, why would she put you through that? ... Maybe she's testing you? that would be a good thing cause you past it!!!... All I'm saying is you have to make a move, and if she's not leaving the state maybe try a Freeze Out, or don't come running when she needs you!! DOnt have to tell her your with another girl, just say "ohh, damn I'm can't, have other plans. woulda been fun tho "............ You see what I mean? ..... you got this bud, just don't be so available!!!

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    Default Re: How to make this girl my girlfriend. Long post

    No, just I was sitting at one end of the couch and she sat right up on me putting her legs around mine and her head on my shoulder and sh1t. She said I looked really good and smelled really good. She just had that operation done so she was in a lot of pain it was just meant to be a kinda chill night. I kinda did go in for a kiss at the end of the night but failed by waiting too long and making it awkward (gotta stick to that 3 second rule).

    I think I went a little too far on pull mode. I am a nice guy and HATE to see her or anyone suffer so I told her I'll always be here for her....FAIL on my part I know I know. I just have a similar past as her so I know what it's like to not have anybody. The only reason I believe it is not a friendzone thing right now is because she flirts with me constantly and she basically straight up said right now is just seeing if we are compatible and she calls me cutie and babe whenever she is jealous or needs me.... could just be she is manipulating me.

    Tonight was meant to be the night to turn everything around and make it more serious by either having sex with her, making out with her, or just showing her an overall good night but she can't make it and is all depressed about that other guy (confirmed) I just sent her a text saying ru coming out? and made sure to let her know I would be with the girls she is jealous of.

    I know I got this I just need to step up my game. I def got enough pull time in by everything above. Time for more freezing out.... possibly until next weekend. I have a strong feeling she invited me because she feels uncomfortable with those other guys but has no one else to hang out with. She told me the highlight of her night was jumping up on me for the hug. I def need to get out of this friendzone and quick though. Next time I hang out with her I will make sure of it. Done with this and being used when she is down. I just don't think it is possible at her house; especially in the daytime. I need to show her some adventure. She feels too comfortable at home.

    Overall right now she is depressed and just had that operation, time not talking to her is probably the best thing. Then when she needs me I freeze her out until it drives her crazy and she tells me she really really wants to see me like she did a few days ago. Freezing out seems to work on this girl so just going to stick to that. Then make sure when I unfreeze it is not a friendzone situation like tv at her house.

    Going out with my buddy and 4 girls tonight. Should set me straight.

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    Default Re: How to make this girl my girlfriend. Long post

    And typing on here makes me realize the mistakes I make and how fucked up the situation is which is why I post so often even if it's just rambling. From now on she is only able to cry on my shoulder and all that IF we are DATINNNGGG. I want her so bad it's not even funny and I don't know if it's just because I've wanted her for so long and I can't have her or if it's more and I know there will only be one way to find out. Well two ways... dating or sex. Sex would probably make me like her even more though. Freezing Her Out is very difficult for me to do too, and I was looking forward to tonight very much so here's to another week of freezing her out....cheers.

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    Default Re: How to make this girl my girlfriend. Long post

    Hey bud,

    I kind of see your point somewhat.... I also think you are close to getting her into bed if you push more. But I mean, if you look at the overall picture, this girl is a cool girl but she has a whole lot of issues!!! Im not hating on her, or don't want to come off as a dick. Its just that you have to think, "what if I do get her in the sack, or she ends up my GF??? can I trust her, or do I want to put up with that shit my whole life??? I don't know how you feel, just giving you something else to think about. Just keep doing your thing. All the advice on here works for Women in general. You have a history with this girl, and know her and understand her better than anyone else on this forum ever will. That being said, don't let that fool you into treating her different, because she's still a WOMAN with the same attraction switches and shit every other woman has. Just tweak it to calibrate with her. Good luck bro!!!

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    Default Re: How to make this girl my girlfriend. Long post

    Thanks Inter. Posting on here has made me realize a lot and learn a lot. Now that it is the 2nd week I am seeing a cycle here.

    Stay in, work, workout----she is on my mind and driving me crazy because in my head I believe she is the only girl I have an interest or attraction in and when you are sitting around you get bored and start thinking way too much. Unfortunately I obviously cannot party every night and I am cutting down even more now that school is starting. School will probably be even more time and mind consuming than going out though and I'll be distracted by other women.

    Go out with friends, parties, bar, have a good time----she is off my mind and I realize why the fark am I even wasting my time with this crazy chick when there most likely are more compatible women for me out there......not to mention I am 21 and this is the time to be going crazy not settling down. I always use school as an excuse for getting a girlfriend because I won't have time to be hitting on girls out at the bars or clubs but honestly after school I will just use work as an excuse and then never achieve my lifetime goal of sleeping with a woman of ALMOST every nationality

    Whenever I go out she hits up my phone like crazy and it makes me realize what an emotional wreck she is that she has to hit me up when she KNOWS I am busy out with other people. She just wants attention from me and makes me REALIZE that Freezing Her Out and push pull will def work if I can stay strong and stay with it. Girls want what they can't have and when she knows I am out having an adventurous awesome time it drives her even more crazy.

    At this point I think it is more of a "I can't have her so I want her even more" kinda thing. You're right, don't feel sorry; she is an emotional wreck and most likely not LTR material. Funny thing is I went out with my x and her girlfriend and my guy friend and probably had a way better time with her and them then ever with the chick I am interested in.....who knows maybe something is still there even; and if I keep hanging out with her will have to checkout some ex-girlfriend material. Time will tell with both of these situations.

    Thanks for everything Inter and everyone else. I know the situation I am in, know the decisions I need to make, and know the strategy I need to stick to. You've all helped a ton and half the things on here were just me typing it out to get a clear visual picture of the mistakes I make, and realize how messed up the situation I am in, yet you guys took the time to read it and I appreciate it.


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