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    Default How to: Friend-Zone

    Ok, so I haven't seen a technique on how to get out of the friend-zone on here. This is one of the first things I learned how to do. I had been in the friend-zone with damn near 8 girls. It always seems like it's impossible to get out of it as well, I hated it soooo much. And I am sure there are a lot of other guys that have the same issue. So during this post, I will be sharing what I've learned and done through experience on how you got there, how to get out of it, and why this works.

    *How you got there!*

    Ok! So this is how you got there/how to avoid it in the future. Basically, she views your relationship as one of emotional trust only. She sees you as if you were, "One of the boys." Just as we would view a woman who we've hung out with forever, and never had feelings for (Not sure how relate-able that is.) She feels this way because when you first met you weren't able to have her build that attraction for you, and associate you with a sexual connection.

    One MAIN way to avoid this is pretty easy. Touch more. After learning this I now touch within the first 15 seconds of interaction with a woman, very subtle, just as I would a guy friend. When you say things like "What do you think?" Just touch her with the back of your hand on her arm. Build kino appropriately from there, there are plenty of guides here on how to do that. But you never want to associated by emotion only, you want that subconscious touch, so that later, you touching her doesn't seem so weird.

    Josh Pellicer has good video instructions on how to build touch, I recommend looking them up.

    *How to get out!*

    So, this is how I got out! I had surgery, so it was easy not to go anywhere for a month. (In that month is when I learned all of this.) Getting back to work and socializing with my friends with this new found wisdom was exciting for me! I have a 5 outta 5 for this, so that's why I felt compelled to share lol. I'll share each individually.

    1. Stop talking to them for about 2 weeks to 1 month. If they say hi, don't be rude. But don't go out of the way to see them, hang out with them, try and subliminally avoid them.

    2. This simple question will help you gauge how that female friend feels about you, "Say we just met, if I asked you for qualities about yourself, what would you tell me?" If she doesn't want to answer or something like that, just say "Well, I have a theory about the answers you'd give me, so let me know what you'd say and I'll let you know what I think. Then you can tell me if it's true or not."

    Her answers will be logical, emotional, or sexual. If her answer is sexual, you're probably only in the friend-zone because you THINK you are. 2 emo, 1 log, she has a lot of trust with you but doesn't associate sexual attraction with you. So you're going to have to change that. You change that by touching, disqualifying and neg'ing. I'll give you examples as well. 1 log, 1 emo, 1 sex, you're good to go. That's where you want her answers to be. There are other reasons you won't get that sexual answer (such as low self-esteem) so gauge the girl you're talking to. She's your friend, you should know if she has low self-esteem, i would think.

    I don't like number scaling girls, but I will for the purpose of this.

    Girl #1, HB8: This girl was into psychology. So, the month after surgery, the game was on. I asked her the question stated above. She gave me 2 emo, 1 logical response. I told her that she had placed me in the friend-zone and that she really trusted me but didn't think about me in a sexual way. She agreed. So I proceeded to tell her how my subtle touching would get me out of the friend-zone and why (I didn't know at the time but this was also a dhv and it had a lot to do with 'emotional anchoring' telling them that they will feel a feeling when I do this actually helps them feel that emotion even more.) She was intrigued and challenged me to it. 2 weeks after she had challenged me she was touching me and giving me HUGE IOIs. Obviously, I had completed this one, on to the next. (Yes, I did f-close.)

    Girl #2 HB7: I did the same thing as the last, (She gave the same qualities too, 2 emo, 1 logical) only when I told her what the 3 qualities meant I only said "That's cool right?" she agreed and I did not tell her how I was getting out of there. She was one of those types of people who want to feel like they are in control of their lives. Well, sorry, but you're not... Also, I had put her on an emotional pedestal, and she knew this, so I stopped saying anything about how I felt about her, and started neg'ing and disqualifying, saying things like "Too bad I'm not into girls with tattoos anymore." (LOL what a lie.) "You're like that fark-up little sister I hear these other guys complaining about!" (Yea, hardcore neg. But hardcore cause needs hardcore effect, or something like that. Also, f-closed this one. No mercy.)



    I think these 2 are pretty good examples, so I'll leave you with those. All together I did have 2 f-close, and 5 ended up giving me huge IOIs and some of them even said to me that they would find me as a viable suitor but I'm leaving this area soon (I hadn't gotten to LMR in my studies yet,) which is a lot better than where I started! Hope all goes well in trying out the technique. If you have any questions on this subject, I know it pretty well. Almost positive I've missed something, but I'm sure someone will let me know so I can add it and just leave your questions below! Thanks for reading!

    Credit for my method/technique goes to the following people:
    Josh Pellicer, Author of Tao of The Badass (Has an AMAZING video on YouTUBE about it touch and escalating it.)
    Neil Strauss, Author of The Game (If you don't know who he is you NEED to so go find everything you can involving him.)
    Mystery, Creator of The Mystery Method
    Ross Jeffries, Self proclaimed 'Father of Seduction' (Yea, his techniques are creepy, but emotional anchoring works and I was completely honest with the girls. Promise.)

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    Default Re: How to: Friend-Zone

    Like Neil Strauss says in Rules of the Game, "The only way to fix it is to tear it down completely and build it back up." Once I have a better idea of what I'm doing, I may have to try this out for myself. Thanks!

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    Default Re: How to: Friend-Zone

    I might try this, well rather I should say I have been trying this without knowing I was trying it (as far as the Kino and disqualifiers).
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    Default Re: How to: Friend-Zone

    Seriously this is good

    I just want to link it to stuff I've done on Kino and disqualifiers because that will help everyone pull it together

    http://www.puaforums.com/how-pick-up...html#post63332
    http://www.puaforums.com/how-pick-up...ier-guide.html

    Also here's my post on the subject but you don't have to read it, Elitist covered basically the same stuff
    http://www.puaforums.com/how-pick-up...html#post66071

    Elitist this is a good thread, glad you're part of the community and glad to see you giving credit where it's due
    Look forward to seeing what else you contribute
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    Default Re: How to: Friend-Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by The Red Baron View Post
    Elitist this is a good thread, glad you're part of the community and glad to see you giving credit where it's due
    Look forward to seeing what else you contribute
    Thanks man! It really means a lot coming from you, and I really hope this guide helps people.. Being a baxter fucking bloooooooows..

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    Default Re: How to: Friend-Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by The Elitist View Post
    Girl #1, HB8: This girl was into psychology. So, the month after surgery, the game was on. I asked her the question stated above. She gave me 2 emo, 1 logical response. I told her that she had placed me in the friend-zone and that she really trusted me but didn't think about me in a sexual way. She agreed. So I proceeded to tell her how my subtle touching would get me out of the friend-zone and why (I didn't know at the time but this was also a dhv and it had a lot to do with 'emotional anchoring' telling them that they will feel a feeling when I do this actually helps them feel that emotion even more.) She was intrigued and challenged me to it. 2 weeks after she had challenged me she was touching me and giving me HUGE IOIs. Obviously, I had completed this one, on to the next. (Yes, I did f-close.)
    This sort of happened to me last week...actually I had kinda friendzoned the girl so it was a little reversed but I started talking to her about kino...she was talking about some guy who liked her and he was obviously friendzoned himself...so I started saying that he wants to sleep with her but is not confident enough to state what he wants - directly or subliminally. She was a little shocked by how direct I was but agreed. I then said she was leading him on as a comfort friend whilst waiting for someone better. She agreed. She asked how I would deal with that situation and I told her straight up about kino and started stroking her arm and gazing in her eyes. I started telling her that she had been copying my moves and playing with her hair so I knew she was at least on a subliminal level attracted to me. That I would not accept being friendzoned and would gamble all or nothing.

    One very easy way to avoid being friendzoned is to actually friendzone the girl. I will often say 'lets grab a coffee after work this week, as friends'. It takes pressure off the actual date but also encourages them to chase. A women can't help but start thinking 'why does he see me as a friend and not a lover'. Of course then you switch again on the date and kino. You give them what they thought they couldn't have. Why should it only be guys that get friendzoned? We can use it to our advantage too.

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    Default Re: How to: Friend-Zone

    I completely agree man. I know a couple girls that I wouldn't have relations with, unless they practically raped me lol. But I don't want to have sex with them cuz they are awesome wings! Lol.

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    Default Re: How to: Friend-Zone

    If you haven't found any articles on getting out of the friend zone you haven't been looking too hard dude...

    That said, good post. Always helpful to have things in guide form.
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    Default Re: How to: Friend-Zone

    good solid advice here (y) what's an example of a logical reason?

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    Default Re: How to: Friend-Zone

    A logically beneficial reason would be like if she wants to kiss you or not. Its more logically beneficial for you to believe she does. It gives you confidence and helps you drive on. Whereas the non beneficial answer would be that she doesnt want to, which would demotivate you and kill youre confidence with that woman. Does that make sense?


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