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    Default long term friend to relationship

    Hi all... Where to start!!
    I have been hanging out and good friends with a chick for 4 years and all that time she has had a boyfriend whom treated her pretty badly,stealing from her and promising to change under the influence of weed and hard core ice type drugs!! his past experience is of having 3 kids by 3 different chicks and now has a kid with this girl! They have broken up for good!! She finally realised what a a fuck witt he really is!!
    Of late myself and this girl have been hanging out more and getting up the coast,with her 3 month old baby.. ( i dont fall at her feet or pay for everything or kiss her ass)
    She knew previously how i was keen on her about a year ago when she split up with the boyfriend...Other people seeing us hang out together back then could see something there and comented on this but she denied an interest!!
    I have learned alot in the past relationships and the forums of ribbing the girls and playing cocky funny with them, which i use on this chick and she laps it up!! Im by no way needy and she seems quite drawn or intrigued of my latest lays and good fortune with a few girls of late...
    But im really a kind of guy ultimatly looking for a good solid down to earth girl and long term relationship..
    i have had my fair share of palying around and been pretty unlucky to be dating of late selfish Australian chicks(im from England originally) .
    Dont get me wrong guys i am by no way needy and putting my eggs in one basket with this girl and happy to walk away if there was by no way an interest recipriated..
    About a year ago my thinking was not being the type to take on a ready made family, but at 36 ive changed my attititue and open to dating chicks with kids its pretty relevant that most chicks my age may have kids..
    This girl is open to another baby in the future maybe, which i would like one day..
    Im basically interested in having a crack at this girl and although im trying not to get too involved with her woes of the past fuck witt and trying to keep her laughing and being cocky funny with her im interested in working on a system to draw out that interest i know she has in me without being too forward and being kept in the friend zone as such!!
    i sure most of you would say move on and forget this chick but over time,shes a rare one that would be a keeper and if you want something i beleive you should go for it!!

    What kind of game should i be playing indirectly to bring out what she really thinks and wants in us??
    Again im no AFC and she knows that,if i was happy to be in a shitty relationship id be in one but i choose not to be because most dont have the right qualities to have a chance!!

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    Default Re: long term friend to relationship

    Hi,

    For some reason, you are trying to compensate for something. You have told us several times that you are not an AFC, thinking that we may come across with that impression.

    Therefore, if I'd be using psychology 101, you are not an AFC but you are more of a friendly, nice guy which tries to appear something he is not and preemptively compensates in order not to be put in that category.

    So chill ... no one is judging you if you are a nice guy or if you are a jerk or if you are anything between these two. The true is that you should not date a friend, especially someone whose been your friend for four years.

    The friendship will die eventually and even if I've managed to transform friendships into relationships, it was never a friendship older than 2 months and no more than 20 hours spent together as friends.

    The appeal is strong, I must admit it. You know her very well, she knows you very well. You are already very comfortable with each other. You do things for her and see makes you feel amazing thanks to it.

    But it's not a good idea to move forward with this. When sex enters the equation, both your friendship and relationship will break apart. Plus, from the way you've put ways, you are really trying to play it cool but it seems that you are a bit insecure.

    In reality, probably you are really into her and she is probably into you, but it's not really the "I'm the alpha male and she wants me so bad because she's tired of that jerk" dynamic. Instead it's more "I've always been there for her and she deserves something better - something like me, and we are close enough to make it happen".

    But even if you could, why would you bring so much drama in your life by doing this?

    Thanks,
    Mark

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    Default Re: long term friend to relationship

    Thanks for the input mark and i can see your logic for sure! However briefly, i know within my personality i am a good guy and not the nice guy! I have my own interests and lead my own life the best i can! and wont be walked over like the nice guy..

    Most people on here i think basically have questions about learning about women in some form or another, with respect i dont see that as an insecurity!they are strange to work out!lol.. just my opinion..
    I genuinely hear you but!!!
    You say you've made friends into relationships?? So did it never end well for you?? I would be interested to know your experience??

    I will admitt the fact i know she can do better and of course i believe thats myself.. Im not trying to be the Alpha male as a disguese, i am genuinely playfull and always like to be cocky funny witty with girls i know/interact with!

    Isnt it always said that when a chick is REALLY into a guy she always says hes not just my husband/boyfriend hes my best friend!!!!Do they genuinely mean that or is it a lie??

    Or are we of the opinion that if you become great friends with a chick and you get together it will never work because your friendship would break down??
    Maybe im being nieve here but i think the more you know someone you know if it would be right or not.
    Im trying to learn the wowens mind more and we all need to improve your inner self first! id like to bring out in her, indirectly her interest(her chase me) if it exists..

    Its not a oneitis situation,i wont not stop dating others in the mean time..

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    Default Re: long term friend to relationship

    Don't waste your time on this girl.she may always be bound to her ex because of the child issue.They are too many single women.Move on!!

    You are harnessing a skill that could put you infront of thousands of women.Why not that single beautiful girl that waits for you in the corners,gets mad when you don't text and overall a strong confident woman.Goodluck

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    Default Re: long term friend to relationship

    Or perhaps the REAL reason why you keep stressing that you're not an AFC is because you realize that the first thing that would come into most people's heads after reading this post is 'AFC'... Doesn't matter.

    Dude. Part of being Alpha is making your own choices, so don't listen to these guys who tell you not to go through with sarging this girl. If you are comfortable with pursuing a relationship with this chick (knowing that she has a kid!), then go for it. Just remember to walk away if she starts being a bitch. Good Luck, buddy. I've got faith.
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