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    Default Don't know how to progress into dating. NEED HELP

    I have been hooking up with this girl for about a month now. We hang out every weekend. I haven't f-closed her yet and every time I try she tells me to stop. The last time I tried she got a little bit weird and said that I was to confusing. My text game with her is pretty solid but I feel like I'm always the one starting the conversation, however I'm always the one that cuts it off. A mutual friend of ours says that she's really into me but it only really shows when we hang out at which time we pretty much act like we are dating but during the week it's the opposite.

    Last weekend when we were at the pub a guy asked for her number and if she was with any of the guys at the table. She said no and gave him a fake number and then told everyone at the table which I think was a bit of a shit test then after got me to come back to a friends house with her when I was going to go home instead. This week I'm sorta been Freezing Her Out waiting for a little bit of effort on her behalf. I need a little bit of help on how to keep the relationship progressing.

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    Default Re: Don't know how to progress into dating. NEED HELP

    Ah forgot she also said that I don't text her enough. And I just told her I was bad with texting people back. Which seemed weird because she never texts me first

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    Default Re: Don't know how to progress into dating. NEED HELP

    First off, I like the fact that you understand some basic concepts already. Ending conversations first, recognizing shit tests and you are already Freezing Her Out. I also liked the fact that you said you are waiting for a little better effort on her behalf. It tells me that you have standards/expectations and you aren't going to blindly keep chasing the girl. Awesome.

    A few things to consider:
    1. She's telling people that she is not seeing anyone
    2. She doesn't initiate the texting
    3. You haven't f-closed her yet

    She has you right where she wants you. You are giving her attention through out the week by texting her, giving her some physical connection without the implications of sex, and she's free to go out and meet other guys. You are right now a short term plan for her to fulfill SOME of her needs (not sexual, not yet anyways). Women, love a challenge and will act differently around a guy that is a scarce resource. That's why ending conversations on a high note, push/pull, demonstrating the ability to walk away, abundance mentality, and avoiding needy behaviour is stressed by members of this community. In short, you have to demonstrate to her that you are a scarce resource and if she doesn't act quickly, that resource will be gone. This is why some women will sleep with a guy on the first date but then make other guys wait months or even just friend zone them while giving them the occasional flirt to keep them interested. How do you become a scarce resource to a women? It starts with your mindset: Abbundance mentality. A guy that has abbundance in his life does not care if a particular girl texts him back, flakes, declines sex, or says something rude because he has a million other options at his disposal. If this girl knew (or assumed) there were other women trying to stick their claws into you, she would act much differently most likely.

    For now, keep going out and meeting other women regularly. When you have other legit female options, you'll start thinking about her less therefor helping you alpha communicate with her better. Don't text this girl everyday and when you do text her, start mirroring her investment level for now. If she's distant and cold, you act that way towards her until she opens back up again. Reward good behaviour and punish bad ones. Be hard to read and keep her guessing. Tease her about something but then open doors for her. Refer to her as a friend but then kiss her.

    Lastly, I would look into strategies for dealing with LMR, and more resources on Kino Escalation since you might be doing these wrong which could be the underlying problem here as well. There are many products around from authors such as Stylelife, Lovesystems, David DeAngelo, Vindicarlo, Gambler,...etc, that cover physical escalation as well as threads on this forum. Good luck.

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    Default Re: Don't know how to progress into dating. NEED HELP

    Awesome advice! Thanks for the help

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    Default Re: Don't know how to progress into dating. NEED HELP

    Yeah, don't qualify to her. Don't put yourself in further situations with her that will not progress anywhere. For instance, going to her friends house doesn't push you closer to fuck location. Explaining to her why you don't text will never do good. If she invites you somewhere and there isn't a clear plan in your head of how sex can happen, hold off. You've already placed your cards on the table and let her see your hand by hooking up with her, so her ASD is kicking in while she decides whether or not she likes you. The harder you push, the less likely things will work out
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    Default Re: Don't know how to progress into dating. NEED HELP

    This is another example of why I say spinning plates with multiple women. I used to feel bad about going on a date and then going out that night to pick up more broads. But this further proves my point to the t that women are gamey too. She is gaming you dude. You two are not "official". So the way you play this game is a numbers game and picking up more and more women before you enter into a relationship "they" initiate. They have to want to make things exclusive with you. You are wanting to go exclusive with her which means you want things to be initiated and may take it upon yourself to chase her, resist the urge this is a ploy women use to get validation. Go out pick up more women until you have so many they eventually want to settle down with you. You are single so take advantage of it don't willing jump into a relationship which is constant sex yes but laden with difficulty.

    After reading this I will no longer feel guilty for going out and picking up right after a date. My date sensed this and it threatened her and she was texting me like mad after the date. This woman is gaming you so play her at her own game and go out and meet other women and let it take care of itself but don't make it obvious you are a player but yes playing the field is the best way to play as it is a numbers game and guys get hung up on one girl for too long and get stuck in the friendzone. That would be the best way to progress, be an Alpha Male and get more girls.
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    Default Re: Don't know how to progress into dating. NEED HELP

    Thanks guys. I ended up Freezing Her Out and not asking her to come out the next weekend.(which had sorta become a given). Out mutual friend ended up inviting her to one of my mates BBQ that weekend. When she got there I gave her a little bit of attention but mostly just enjoyed the night and flirted a bit with a girl that was there that I had already slept with. Then at the end of the night I ended up hooking up with the first girl and she told me she wanted to get more serious. So the night ended up being really successful. Thanks for the help guys

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    Default Re: Don't know how to progress into dating. NEED HELP

    What if I were to tell you that all you really need to do is tell her you want to start dating? You already have this girl - forget that she doesn't initiate often. Women are emotional creatures; play into that.

    Word of caution - start a relationship with her sooner rather than later. Your game is great, so it's likely she's gonna feel a little insecure around you and get into a relationship with someone else if you drag this out for too long.
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