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Thread: How can I better at dates? How to fallow up after?I suck;Help!

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    Default How can I better at dates? How to fallow up after?I suck;Help!

    Ok hey guys, I like all this PUA stuff and the community. Overall I improved because of this site. However, I completely suck at all dates. I have been reading techniques and I know th but cant apply it. Here is an example.

    My friend set me up on a blind date with his girl and her sister.He set us up to go bowling on Saturday night, they got there first, they texted us they were there, we arrived 5 minutes later, we got there met up and I introduced myself, and shook their hand, they seemed to be impressed, they looked at each other and smiled, anyways we were ready to bowl but all the lanes were taken, we had to wait an hour to a lane to open, so we were there talking about ourselves, DHVed and made the girls talk about themselves, teased them a bid made them laugh a lot, the conversation went ok, before we could bowl their parents called them to be home, so we bid farewell. I didn't number closed or kinoed the entire time except handshake
    I felt like that was a fail.
    They mentioned to re-schedule for next week.

    Next week, same thing we showed up, they showed up, their parents are strict and they only had time for 2 games( their parents are strict). We bowled, we had an alright time, but I didm GB talk to my date only a little teased her on bowling skills etc...then again I failed to Number Close and Kino,.god I felt so AFC,.its a certainty she thinks Im a chump. Luckily, I know her facebook, would it be a good idea add her and set up another date by ourselves? this time to be more prepared. God I feel total AFC.

    Please criticize to your liking, I want improve.

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    Default Re: How can I better at dates? How to fallow up after?I suck;Help!

    Jose, have you invested in reading any ebooks literature on attraction? The reason why I ask you this is because a lot of the specifics on "how to be better" is explained in them.

    What you failed to do was escalating to anything beyond having fun and a good time.

    The next step was to flirt and start dropping in sexual innuendos. Also, you NEED to Kino. You need to get use to touching them and they use to you touching them. One tip is start small. Like when you open the doors for them, place your hand on her back as she passes by. If you have trouble hearing what she said, ask her to repeat it, put your head close and side hug her in. If she said something cool "High Fives" work and hold on to her hand longer.

    Number Closing them was super easy. WHY did you not ask for their number? "Hey, I had a great time ladies, let's do this again." Take out your phone and hand it to your date. "Give me your number, so we can conspire and figure out an escape plan from your parents. I don't think they like us very much" lol

    You said you feel like an AFC. Well if that is the way you feel, then that is the state of your inner game. You need to work on that also. You didn't need anything clever to ask for their numbers. Hell, she probably would've given it to you anyways...as friends...because the way the date went that is all you amount to.

    If you are serious in getting better, I suggest you start doing some reading. Forum posts can't answer a broad question like this.

    "How to Meet and Connect with Women" by Robert Elise is floating around for free if you do a google search.

    I just spent 67 bucks on buying Mehow's 3 second attraction. There's some good stuff. It breaks down how to create that "serendipity" effect that girls feel. There's tons of examples.
    That $67 bucks for a 400 page guide. You probably spent just as much on those 2 dates and didn't get anything out of it. If you want to get better, you need to invest in yourself.

    Once you have the knowledge, you need to go out there and apply it and practice. Yes, you will fail, but it is part of the process because "Every strike leads closer to the next homerun" - Babe Ruth

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    Default Re: How can I better at dates? How to fallow up after?I suck;Help!

    Hey man, thanks for your reply. I havent haveny really read any ebooks exexcept The Tao Bad Ass by Joushua Pellicer. I just read on the forums and try to learn from other experiences, but now I am download how to meet and connect with women like you mentioned and Ill start reading right away.

    I dont know why I failed to Number Close, guess I was to scared or nervouse was hesitant I guess.

    But do you think itll be a good idea and add her on facebook? , and set up a date ourselvees? This time ill be better prepared, or should I move on, but i kinda like this one.

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    Default Re: How can I better at dates? How to fallow up after?I suck;Help!

    attract them then Number Close or something else you may want to shoot for.go read whatever you may want and come and read on how to create attraction on here.

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    Default Re: How can I better at dates? How to fallow up after?I suck;Help!

    Dude, the "Tao Of Badass" was one of the biggest keys to me understanding game, as well as how to be a badass with women.!

    Joshua Pellicer is no joke!

    I would also recommend reading Tiffany Taylor's book "The single man's guide to great women"

    Lots of eye opening stuff in both of those.




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    Default Re: How can I better at dates? How to fallow up after?I suck;Help!

    But do you think it'll be a good idea and add her on facebook? , and set up a date ourselvees? This time ill be better prepared, or should I move on, but i kinda like this one.
    You can do that, but then you are regressing into a different form of communication. Normally people text/call to set D1, here you are fb IMing to set D3. It's completely...off.

    I doesn't hurt to try, but don't keep your hopes up. Women love men who are confident and take charge and hopefully you didn't miss your train. Best thing you can do is add her on fb and run a quick key lock sequence and get that number ASAP. Move it to a phone/text game and secure D3. Best advice I can give you.

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    Default Re: How can I better at dates? How to fallow up after?I suck;Help!

    Ill check out Taylors, book too.

    Thanks for helping out guys, this community is awesome!

    How good is Magnetic Messaging, and what is a keylock sequence? I read its something about 3 goals to get a date but im not sure. Nevermind I just downloaded it..
    Last edited by Jose Cardenas; 02-09-2014 at 09:45 PM. Reason: \\

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    Default Re: How can I better at dates? How to fallow up after?I suck;Help!

    That Magnetic Messaging is pretty damn effective. Key lock sequence is a 3 step move to secure a D1. I have used it to great effect and until this day, it's the foundation of my text game. Think of it as a surgical strike. If I know I hit these 3 points, then I know I am covered and need not worry about over-texting. It is the spine of texting, everything else is extra.

    I'll just copy/paste a general breakdown from my own PUA bible.

    “Key Lock Sequence”
    1. Key – Sparking an Emotional Response. Something that will make her stop what she is doing, think about you, and respond. Women make their decision based on their emotion state, not logical. Make sure the text you send her has a purpose. If the text isn’t serving a purpose except for your own mental masturbation, don’t send it.
    2. Turn – Make a connection. This is a text that you can only send to this particular girl. For example, an inside joke in reference to something that happened when you first met. Negates the thought that you are some random mass texter that sends this to all his girlfriends. The connecting also gives her a reason to rationalize that you are genuine.
    Mistakes – Don’t play grab ass over text, spending over 50 texts asking her questions trying to build rapport. You are not farking your phone. Key Lock Sequence is meant to be quick. You need to move it forward fast. Keep it under 10 texts.
    Say she didn’t find that funny or you didn’t get a response, it may take you 2 – 3 texts to spark that emotion, so you don’t want to move into that next phase until she finds it funny and is interacting with you. So rather 3 checkpoints, rather than number of texts.
    3. Push – Setting up a time to meet, deflecting excuses, safeguard vs. flakiness

    What if the girl says she can’t make it? If you run her through the proper key lock sequence and she says she can’t hang out this week. Then you are going to have to assume she is telling the truth. If she isn’t interested in you then normally she doesn’t respond.
    What if the girl gives you one word responses? Low interest target. It just means she is not emotionally invested so you just keep pumping. Keep trying different keys. It might take you 20 texts to get her to crack. It could also means she has a boyfriend, she has something hard going on in her life, or it could be what you did prior to getting her number. Key lock sequence is a great barometer to see where you are at. Text game has to do with logistics and circumstances. She could already be dating someone.
    How do I text a girl without looking needy?
    The key to playful persistence is detaching yourself from the outcome. If you are getting too hurt over not getting a response, time to look at your self-development. If you are generating your own fun, and you have a vibe about yourself and you think this is fun, you are going to come off as very non-needy and very attractive. Part of your inner game is “I got this hot girl’s number, what funny stuff can I come up with?” If you start planning out the next 5 texts to send her, then you are playing the game that will lead you down the wrong alley. Am I secretly expecting a response from this text? If you answer yes, don’t send it. “Just heard a nicki minaj song and remembered you saying you liked her…” BAD You hope that by referencing her interest, she’ll validate you with a response. “Saw a raccoon today…made me think of you.” Totally off-beat, random.
    What if a girl texts you first? Emotional checkpoint passed. Normally a girl going about her day doing her own thing, not thinking about you, but if she text you first then she is. Go into connecting with her.

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    Default Re: How can I better at dates? How to fallow up after?I suck;Help!

    So just for clarification I think I got this right. If I add her on FB and message her what can I say?

    We went to the bowling alley last week
    From the emotional goal, im not too experienced in this but for the 1.key I was thinking I could say "Im the cute you bowled with and your the cute girl I met, how are we doing?

    Then for 2. The turn. We saw a old lady maybe in her 40s, we joked how she kept looking at us and how she looked like a guy cause she had a dudes face, i could use that as reference for an inside joke

    Then step.3 . I could just invite her out to hang out after
    Last edited by Jose Cardenas; 02-10-2014 at 02:06 AM. Reason: erroe

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    Default Re: How can I better at dates? How to fallow up after?I suck;Help!

    Great post Mortal, but could you elaborate a little more on the key lock sequence? Like what would be an example of a good key to spark an emotional response?

    Usually when I text girls, i ask them how their day was, or how they are feeling. In my opinion I think its ok to send these types of messages since I've already met them, and I'm not trying to stand out - like i would when messaging a girl on an online dating website.

    Thanks


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