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    Default Re: Why most guys cannot get a Girlfriend=Oneitis

    Well that wasn't that harsh but call me crazy but I have pulled this off before. Whether we like it or not women can tend to behave the ways I direct them.

    My last GF for example waited on hold for a month for me to get at her and it worked terribly well. As I said before, my long game is stellar.

    Now explain the phone call because I feel this is a dealbreaker. I am just starting to deal with 10's so you may perceive me to be a newborn and need a lot of direction that's because I don't need help getting 9's or my Ex back. I got it covered but 10's are giving me a run for my money.

    Yes but one 10 says she is not dating and said we can be friends (FWB) as I seeded that many times and the other says she is busy trying to figure out her life (may be throwing her off her game) so frankly I feel too much like a girl's hero as in they treat me like Prince Charming when I am trying to bang them not woo them at least as far as I know.

    So I am leading them on with the Summer fling but they are also leading me on in not giving me an answer but then again who in their right mind would agree to getting dumped anyway?

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    Default Re: Why most guys cannot get a Girlfriend=Oneitis

    It's really simple, honestly...

    If you do not close the deal, within about 10 accumulated hours, that is not 10 hours from the time you meet but rather about 10 hours of total accumulated time that you have interacted with her, then you blew it in some way. That doesn't mean you have to go the distance in 10 hours, only that you should have closed the deal within 10 hours so that you could take it wherever you wanted.

    It also doesn't matter if she is a 9 or 10 or 5, the game is the same. What you say might change according to her physical appearance, mental or emotional state, but the essence of your game, your method, should not change. Regardless of how a woman looks she still possesses the same exact triggers regardless.

    If you are having a difficult time with 10s, this means the problem exists within yourself, your own misgivings or insecurities. We know that it doesn't matter if the woman is a 5 or 10, they possess the same exact triggers. The only difference is how they perceive your value. If you have not increased your value the problem is with you, not her. If you have not bothered to use a specific method, step by step, to increase her interest in you, by increasing your perceived value, then you have already blown it and she is now considering you a 5-8 and keeping you on a back burner in case something should fall through. The one thing for certain is that almost all 10s always have several attractive back up plans. I have seen this in all the years I have spent working or owning nightclubs, if one person bails a 10 always has a backup or someone else lined up.

    If any of these 10s are still answering your calls, then you have been put on the waiting list, not them.

    One of the nightclubs I was part owner of, was very close to a private Catholic College. A rich kids college. We had jazz and dinner until 10 pm at night, and then I would have the bouncers clear the dinning room floor of tables, while Que-ing people outside in a line. Creating anticipation. Meanwhile, the line would become longer and longer so that cars that drove by would see a line outside, or in other words pre-selection. You don't have to go driving around looking for a nightclub because this one has a line outside, it validates the nightclub as being a hot spot. During this time, I would make a big deal out of preparing a party bus to drive out to the college and collect people to drive back.

    So with the bus right in front of the door, I would give instructions to the driver, so that everyone in line could hear, that the first three busloads were to only be women because I didn't want them waiting after 10pm, at night, on the street. So all the guys in line knew that the first three buses that arrived would be hot, young, college girls from rich families. They would have no problem waiting outside.

    When the bus arrived, I would split the line and have the girls walk right through the crowd of guys, into the nightclub.

    Anticipation, pre-selection, more anticipation, and honestly these were only a few methods I employed to generate all kinds of talk and excitement. I have only be expressing a few techniques in my responses to you among the literally thousands that are possible.

    You are not creating anticipation, and not showing value by pre-selection. Instead you are pushing for a label, a boyfriend, a friends with benefits, a something or other. You are more interested in owning that label than owning her orgasm, and she knows this. Women don't care about labels, not until after you have done more than talk with them. It's only after validating they should be interested in you as a man of value, that they might be interested in some sort of label that describes the two of you, but even that I would steer clear of. A label is a framework you then should endeavor to operate in which limits your game. Unless you plan on being involved in a long term relationship, and being faithful in that relationship, you shouldn't be looking to define your interactions with women in a way that limits your game at all.

    In any case you seem to have already blown it with these girls that are not giving you anything in return. Develop new contacts by using a specific method, a series of different triggers, a working game that truly generates results rather than trying to salvage the contacts you currently have, that you have already failed at closing. When the time is right you can always use pre-selection and validate your worth with these failed contacts, with the new ones you generate.

    But do yourself a favor, change things up, try something new and different. You are obviously doing something in a way that causes you to be put in limbo land. Changing your game up, and keeping things dynamic until you figure out what truly works is the only way you are going to improve and develop contacts that are not flaky or wishy/washy.

    C...

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    Default Re: Why most guys cannot get a Girlfriend=Oneitis

    Quote Originally Posted by CesareBorgia View Post
    It's really simple, honestly...

    If you do not close the deal, within about 10 accumulated hours, that is not 10 hours from the time you meet but rather about 10 hours of total accumulated time that you have interacted with her, then you blew it in some way. That doesn't mean you have to go the distance in 10 hours, only that you should have closed the deal within 10 hours so that you could take it wherever you wanted.

    It also doesn't matter if she is a 9 or 10 or 5, the game is the same. What you say might change according to her physical appearance, mental or emotional state, but the essence of your game, your method, should not change. Regardless of how a woman looks she still possesses the same exact triggers regardless.

    If you are having a difficult time with 10s, this means the problem exists within yourself, your own misgivings or insecurities. We know that it doesn't matter if the woman is a 5 or 10, they possess the same exact triggers. The only difference is how they perceive your value. If you have not increased your value the problem is with you, not her. If you have not bothered to use a specific method, step by step, to increase her interest in you, by increasing your perceived value, then you have already blown it and she is now considering you a 5-8 and keeping you on a back burner in case something should fall through. The one thing for certain is that almost all 10s always have several attractive back up plans. I have seen this in all the years I have spent working or owning nightclubs, if one person bails a 10 always has a backup or someone else lined up.

    If any of these 10s are still answering your calls, then you have been put on the waiting list, not them.

    One of the nightclubs I was part owner of, was very close to a private Catholic College. A rich kids college. We had jazz and dinner until 10 pm at night, and then I would have the bouncers clear the dinning room floor of tables, while Que-ing people outside in a line. Creating anticipation. Meanwhile, the line would become longer and longer so that cars that drove by would see a line outside, or in other words pre-selection. You don't have to go driving around looking for a nightclub because this one has a line outside, it validates the nightclub as being a hot spot. During this time, I would make a big deal out of preparing a party bus to drive out to the college and collect people to drive back.

    So with the bus right in front of the door, I would give instructions to the driver, so that everyone in line could hear, that the first three busloads were to only be women because I didn't want them waiting after 10pm, at night, on the street. So all the guys in line knew that the first three buses that arrived would be hot, young, college girls from rich families. They would have no problem waiting outside.

    When the bus arrived, I would split the line and have the girls walk right through the crowd of guys, into the nightclub.

    Anticipation, pre-selection, more anticipation, and honestly these were only a few methods I employed to generate all kinds of talk and excitement. I have only be expressing a few techniques in my responses to you among the literally thousands that are possible.

    You are not creating anticipation, and not showing value by pre-selection. Instead you are pushing for a label, a boyfriend, a friends with benefits, a something or other. You are more interested in owning that label than owning her orgasm, and she knows this. Women don't care about labels, not until after you have done more than talk with them. It's only after validating they should be interested in you as a man of value, that they might be interested in some sort of label that describes the two of you, but even that I would steer clear of. A label is a framework you then should endeavor to operate in which limits your game. Unless you plan on being involved in a long term relationship, and being faithful in that relationship, you shouldn't be looking to define your interactions with women in a way that limits your game at all.

    In any case you seem to have already blown it with these girls that are not giving you anything in return. Develop new contacts by using a specific method, a series of different triggers, a working game that truly generates results rather than trying to salvage the contacts you currently have, that you have already failed at closing. When the time is right you can always use pre-selection and validate your worth with these failed contacts, with the new ones you generate.

    But do yourself a favor, change things up, try something new and different. You are obviously doing something in a way that causes you to be put in limbo land. Changing your game up, and keeping things dynamic until you figure out what truly works is the only way you are going to improve and develop contacts that are not flaky or wishy/washy.

    C...

    And that may be, again I am not arguing with the fact that I may suck, fail, or make mistakes. Not at all. But let's not forget where I have come and what I progressed to not even have 10's talk to me to now them approaching me and giving me their numbers, this a huge leap of progress and some guys will NEVER reach this level. Some guys cannot do any better than a 7 because they are solely relying on their natural game.

    Like some chick she was a 7 at work and everybody thought she was so insanely pretty but due to the quality of girls I refer to her as a "hot gorilla" she had a deep voice and a monkey looking face but yeah it was obvious she was hot. Just the way I qualified her and NEGGED her in my head.

    Well anyway that broad is getting married to some loafer. He really thinks he hit the "jackpot" but I have a different perspective. Anyway what you are saying is probably true I know I definitely need to up my game this year. The fact that you are focusing on the 10's is kinda pre-mature because I already stated that was the focus this year and I barely started my warm up for going out in the year and so far only 4 numbers this year.

    However I am not going approach crazy or in a frenzy because now I am pickier about who I approach. I go for the girls I want now not just something to pass the time or warm up on.

    Granted you think these numbers are going nowhere and to have no label or goal. But girls will not respond to me without some kind of goal as in Summer fling, date, girlfriend, hang out, etc you gotta do something with that number and I put the label I want on the interaction. Granted these girls are testing out the lawns elsewhere so be it, they are still where I left them. If I called them right now this second, they would probably answer wondering what I got to say and because my mind is focused on Summer flings I just don't need to call them so they are going to sit in limbo land.

    You think they are playing me but have you considered or remembered that I am playing them? I am playing them as well. I would be more than willing to go get new contacts and believe you me I am all about trying new things, after all half the time I am trying new stuff. Lately the phone calling and relationship thing is resonating the most with these 10's where as last Summer it was the hooking up method so I don't know they are always changing it up on me so of course I am going to be exploring new horizons you are not telling me something that is not already in the woodworks.

    Also you don't know me so you have no idea Summer is when I go all in and all out. So right now I am in warm up phase. I am not really srs about chicks I meet this is why the long holds, I will shotgun them more this Summer and quicker. But still you really don't know I am slacking or slipping until Mid-Summer so come then I will be in better spirits and more chicks so I won't be all this needy and stuff after all I am not in abundance yet but once I start the marathon my perspective will change.

    After all....

    My entire Pick Up Persona is built around the foundation that. Ends with the idea of Summer! I used to go out all crazy in the Spring and Winter time but I decided screw that.

    Now that I found during Year 1 in scouting phase I found that target rich locals were more saturated during the warmer tropical months and the Clubs while packed during the Winter they were devoid of quality girls and yet over the Summer nights they were like a mad house.

    This is why I built my entire foundation on it.

    Hibernate in the Winter
    Warm up in the Spring (no need for Warm Up sets on Summer Nights)
    sarge in the Summer (10+ Sets a Day/Night)
    Cool Down in the Fall (relationship time)

    Rinse
    and
    Repeat

    So no I got this down to a t, again granted plenty of stuff to work on but you are speaking to my Warm up Spring Phase mind which is frankly indifferent towards these interactions with women, not to mention I am trying to not be so Outcome Dependent and sounds like you want me to be Outcome Dependent?
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    Love is a game that's why I don't worry about it anymore. When you let go of your feelings you find your meaning.
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    Default Re: Why most guys cannot get a Girlfriend=Oneitis

    Alright, well you do your thing and good luck to you.


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