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    Default Re: What is stopping you from meeting and attracting an amazing girlfriend?

    Man we have some issues we need to work through with you Bulldog. From this post and the others I have seen of you are in the middle of some serious inner game issues. This is what I am seeing tell me if it sounds right: you got into this to get better with women. You have learned how to approach a woman but you are having problems cultivating attraction. This is frustrating you so you have responded by dumping hundreds if not thousands of dollars into products to try to “learn” how to push past your escalation and attraction issues. However you are still stuck in the same rut not getting anywhere, and not closing the women you want to close. In return you don’t blame yourself you blame the girl. She must be shallow; she must be only after money, or tall guys, or a nice car, or even VIP status with bottles popping when they walk into the room. Truth is that the issue is not with the women it’s with YOU!

    The reality of the matter is that your issues are rooting in your inner game. You don’t believe you can so you can’t. I know its simple but it’s the truth. You have been rejected and shot down so many times that you don’t think it will work. So you learn a new bit and you take it into the field and try it, and it fails. Well my question is this: if its failing for you and working for others does it make the problem the material or the presenter. I imagine that your issues are coming from a lack of congruency. Your non verbals are screaming one thing when you verbals are screaming another. Women can see this and in return see that you look fake wanting nothing to do with that. They see that its just a show and that your not worth her time. Christian Hudson talks about this in unbreakable where he talks about cognitive reality. You interpret your environment through value filters. Then these interpretations determine your expression or output into the environment both verbals and non verbals. In other words, your value filter tells you that you are going to fail, so you express to your set that you are going to fail. You are setting yourself up to fail even before you open. Work on this, then work on your body language, then work on your vocal expression. You can get past this.

    This isn’t easy to fix, it takes rewiring your brain and relearning habits and beliefs. But you need to know that is creating a huge limiting belief in yourself that is holding you back from the success that you so badly want. STOP blaming them, accept that its something you need to change and I promise that you will find success. I know you don’t agree, we have been through that on another thread, but im going to keep banging my head against a wall until you open yourself up to the idea, and then im going to poor as much into you as I can to help you learn and find success. Reason being is I had the same problem and I have corrected it. Now I am having great success with women and enjoying the life that I wanted. And no im not rich, and I don’t have a fancy car or house, and I am for sure not the best looking guy and oh BTW im only 5’7. Let us help you.

  2. #12
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    Default Re: What is stopping you from meeting and attracting an amazing girlfriend?

    Quote Originally Posted by tcomea2 View Post
    Man we have some issues we need to work through with you Bulldog. From this post and the others I have seen of you are in the middle of some serious inner game issues. This is what I am seeing tell me if it sounds right: you got into this to get better with women. You have learned how to approach a woman but you are having problems cultivating attraction. This is frustrating you so you have responded by dumping hundreds if not thousands of dollars into products to try to ďlearnĒ how to push past your escalation and attraction issues. However you are still stuck in the same rut not getting anywhere, and not closing the women you want to close. In return you donít blame yourself you blame the girl. She must be shallow; she must be only after money, or tall guys, or a nice car, or even VIP status with bottles popping when they walk into the room. Truth is that the issue is not with the women itís with YOU!

    The reality of the matter is that your issues are rooting in your inner game. You donít believe you can so you canít. I know its simple but itís the truth. You have been rejected and shot down so many times that you donít think it will work. So you learn a new bit and you take it into the field and try it, and it fails. Well my question is this: if its failing for you and working for others does it make the problem the material or the presenter. I imagine that your issues are coming from a lack of congruency. Your non verbals are screaming one thing when you verbals are screaming another. Women can see this and in return see that you look fake wanting nothing to do with that. They see that its just a show and that your not worth her time. Christian Hudson talks about this in unbreakable where he talks about cognitive reality. You interpret your environment through value filters. Then these interpretations determine your expression or output into the environment both verbals and non verbals. In other words, your value filter tells you that you are going to fail, so you express to your set that you are going to fail. You are setting yourself up to fail even before you open. Work on this, then work on your body language, then work on your vocal expression. You can get past this.

    This isnít easy to fix, it takes rewiring your brain and relearning habits and beliefs. But you need to know that is creating a huge limiting belief in yourself that is holding you back from the success that you so badly want. STOP blaming them, accept that its something you need to change and I promise that you will find success. I know you donít agree, we have been through that on another thread, but im going to keep banging my head against a wall until you open yourself up to the idea, and then im going to poor as much into you as I can to help you learn and find success. Reason being is I had the same problem and I have corrected it. Now I am having great success with women and enjoying the life that I wanted. And no im not rich, and I donít have a fancy car or house, and I am for sure not the best looking guy and oh BTW im only 5í7. Let us help you.

    Hi,

    First you are spot on in that I have tried everything and nothing is working. I do not know if I totally agree with your prognosis but I am willing to give it a shot.

    I have just had a terrible string of luck or whatever you call it for a number of years. I have very little faith in all this pickup stuff and from my bad experiences with "gurus" I slighted to think this is all a money making scam.

    However I still hold some hope....I just want to date attractive women and currently its no fun. No fun at all. I would say its more like pulling teeth. so...

    I purchased Unbreakable when it came out about a year ago or so and I tried its ideas but it did not work. I was in that Social man program for about a year and I got nothing out of that either.

    What else do you recommend?

    Thanks

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    Default Re: What is stopping you from meeting and attracting an amazing girlfriend?

    Well first off I am no guru. Neither is crob neither is prjav. These are guys I trust greatly because they have build a reputation of solid advise. Listen to the
    And let their points sink in we are not making anything here, just want to get better and help each other along the way.

    For my reference what products gave you looked at besides unbreakable? And have you done any coaching?

    I would suggest going back and rewarching unbreakable especially the first half of it. Let it sink in.

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    Default Re: What is stopping you from meeting and attracting an amazing girlfriend?

    Quote Originally Posted by tcomea2 View Post
    Well first off I am no guru. Neither is crob neither is prjav. These are guys I trust greatly because they have build a reputation of solid advise. Listen to the
    And let their points sink in we are not making anything here, just want to get better and help each other along the way.

    For my reference what products gave you looked at besides unbreakable? And have you done any coaching?

    I would suggest going back and rewarching unbreakable especially the first half of it. Let it sink in.
    Thats cool. I just have been really burned before. I appreciate it.

    I have looked at tons of products. Double your dating, Mystery Method, RSD, El Topo, Brad P, Vin Dicarlo, Social Man - I have taken bootcamps with Lovesystems, Sinn, Brad P,ect. A couple of one on ones - Practical Pickup, Sinn,ect. I probably have spent over $25,000 in total on all this. I have programs from Adam Lyons, PUA Training, Scot McKay - I have tried it all since I got into this in 2002.

    I will go back and watch Unbreakable but its seems no matter what I watch or read or learn hot women still reject me. Thats the bottom line here. I know nothing but rejection. There seems to be no reward or fun to this.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: What is stopping you from meeting and attracting an amazing girlfriend?

    Ok here is my question: If you have done one on one and bootcamps do you prove while your there?

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    Default Re: What is stopping you from meeting and attracting an amazing girlfriend?

    Quote Originally Posted by tcomea2 View Post
    Ok here is my question: If you have done one on one and bootcamps do you prove while your there?
    Oh I certainly have done them. I can show you the credit card statements to prove it..lol..

    I am sorry, what do you mean by "do you prove while your there?" Please clarify.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: What is stopping you from meeting and attracting an amazing girlfriend?

    im not doubting that you did. What i was asking is did you haev any sucess while you were working with those guys?

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    Default Re: What is stopping you from meeting and attracting an amazing girlfriend?

    No much in tangible results or success...I did learn all about some elements of attraction, qualification, cold reading, openers but I learned all that from ebooks I had read. Nothing new or game breaking. We tried some daygame and night game and my instructors would always just stand and watch and tell me to "do better next time" kind of thing....

    The big dilemma has been the quality of the instructors. My bootcamps were a very mixed bag. Most of the time I could not find my instructors. I saw no demos on one bootcamp and one on another. Most of the time the instructors were more interested in getting laid themselves than helping guys. I tried to get my money back several times and never did.

    My one-on-ones were probably worse. One of them left in the middle of my 8 hour program and never returned. All in all I am still owed over $1500 for promises never kept.

    Most of what I have learned has been from reading, listening to programs and such.

    No real success beyond learning and trying some stuff out.

  9. #19
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    Default Re: What is stopping you from meeting and attracting an amazing girlfriend?

    im just starting my freshmen year in college. i have had other girlfriends before my longest being a year.

    i dont really have a problem being comfortable around woman or even talking to them (unless they are a brand spanking new girl that i just met that day, might take me once or twice to warm up.)

    but i think im having a lil trouble with having them stay interested and expressing my true interests with the "target".

    for ex this girl i really like, im having trouble figuring out how to go about it. the second night we ever met we made out and since then we have been some what close like friends, but its diffrent then other friendships i have with girls.

    i cant tell if shes really into me or if she is just being somewhat of a tease. for one she calls me almost every night, when ever shes home from college we always end up being around each other either if its with people or by ourselfs, she comes to visit me at work,at partys she stands really close to me, and when ever she sleeps over she always ends up sleeping in the same bed as me. but at the same time sometimes she talks to me like thats not even close to her intentions at all

    So this is where im stumped at i cannot tell if she really is into me or if shes just playing games or something. im afraid of rejection and things being akward between us if i make a move (which i really dont want cause romance or not shes a wounderful girl), but i also dont want to wait to long or not show interest and end up in the friend zone.

    any feed back on how to find out for sure if she dose or not, or tips to help the situation improve in my favor would be greatly apreciated.

    thanks
    ~Mr. Nice Guy
    Last edited by Mr. Nice Guy; 12-07-2010 at 03:03 PM.

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    Default Re: What is stopping you from meeting and attracting an amazing girlfriend?

    im just starting my freshmen year in college. i have had other girlfriends before my longest being a year.

    i dont really have a problem being comfortable around woman or even talking to them (unless they are a brand spanking new girl that i just met that day, might take me once or twice to warm up.)

    but i think im having a lil trouble with having them stay interested and expressing my true interests with the "target".

    for ex this girl i really like, im having trouble figuring out how to go about it. the second night we ever met we made out and since then we have been some what close like friends, but its diffrent then other friendships i have with girls.

    i cant tell if shes really into me or if she is just being somewhat of a tease. for one she calls me almost every night, when ever shes home from college we always end up being around each other either if its with people or by ourselfs, she comes to visit me at work,at partys she stands really close to me, and when ever she sleeps over she always ends up sleeping in the same bed as me. but at the same time sometimes she talks to me like thats not even close to her intentions at all

    So this is where im stumped at i cannot tell if she really is into me or if shes just playing games or something. im afraid of rejection and things being akward between us if i make a move (which i really dont want cause romance or not shes a wounderful girl), but i also dont want to wait to long or not show interest and end up in the friend zone.

    any feed back on how to find out for sure if she dose or not, or tips to help the situation improve in my favor would be greatly apreciated.

    thanks
    ~Mr. Nice Guy


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