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    Exclamation First Date in a Week. PLEASE HELP!

    I'm going on a date with a girl I went to uni with. I invited her to Edinburgh Zoo, which she said would be "nice". Not fun, or different, but NICE! Am i looking to much into this, or is that a small ioi?

    I would appreciate any advice anyone would have for a kiss close.

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    Default Re: First Date in a Week. PLEASE HELP!

    The biggest mistake for most guys is aiming for the prize at the end, so much that they miss the entire experience, and the experience itself is how you land yourself a kiss close or fark close.. depending on your skill level.

    Here's my advice to you, she said its "nice" .. not an indication of interest.. she's not going to agree to do something and say .. that's "boring" ... so it's nothing special.

    During the date, wear something your comfy in, but something nice. Not like how you dressed in university. When you see her, give her a hug, 2 arm hug... and then proceed to the zoo. Good choice of date location by the way ... when you see silly looking animals (NOT UGLY ONES), tease her and say, she looks like that... play the which animal would you live with in here for a night? .. try putting your arm around her shoulder at first.. then try to escalate to touching her her waist... it takes tiny steps... because you did just go to school with her, and you need to see where she stands, if she's ducking your arm, then your not in the clear. If she's lingering at an animal stand and you move on to see somehting else 3-4 meters away, go back and grab her shoulders gently. In general, just have fun, make tons of original jokes, touch her here and there, but not like you want to destroy her like lions would.

    after the zoo, ask her if she wants to go for dinner or a small meal... whatever that answer is, when you drop her off at home, or parting ways, go for the hug, but try to turn it into a kiss. If you are just parting ways, make sure it's not too crowded in the area, she might turn away, not because she's saying no, but she's shy and not a PDA type of girl.

    Throughout, ask her general, personal and only SOME silly pointless questions.

    enjoy the time with her, and if you show that in a good way, you'll get more than a kiss close maybe....

    I hope this helps. Anyone can rep it too

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    Default Re: First Date in a Week. PLEASE HELP!

    so I hope the stuff helped. But what ended up happening at the date... did things fall to place??

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    Default Re: First Date in a Week. PLEASE HELP!

    not till today. zoo's cancelled due to weather. meeting for lunch instead. will let you know

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    Default Re: First Date in a Week. PLEASE HELP!

    This is a funny one

    We met, started Kino as soon as i could with a hug and a peck on the cheek. we took a wander through glasgow. We went to a chinese buffet resturant (her choice) and she paid. Then a further wander, with a stop for a coffee, then a drink before heading back to the train. got a hug and a peck on the cheek, no real kiss close.

    I know where i went wrong. I find it difficult to hold conversations when you have to spread them out over 5 hours. and i felt stupid trying to run routines on her. but we had fun, and i will definitly see her again (zoo next time hopefully)

    im assuming the fact she paid, and wouldnt take my share off me at the end, was an ioi, and towards the end, after a wee drink, things opened up a little, with a bit of teasing and laughing.

    but any tips/criticizms are welcome.

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    Default Re: First Date in a Week. PLEASE HELP!

    it seemed to go great!! I'm glad it worked out okay.

    Here's further advice, when you try hard to force a conversation, it WILL naturally get boring. So this is where playing random games, be creative according to what you see.... for example, you walk past a store, look at the displays and ask, which dress would you buy of these? this is an indirect to get personal and see what styles of clothing she likes. If you see something funny, like someone tripping on the sidewalk, laugh and point it out.

    a girl paying is always great! almost felt like she was after you. next time you see her, like a sequel to a movie, just continue where u left off, no need to wait 3 hours to warm up, start with the touching joking and fun times.

    good luck!

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    Default Re: First Date in a Week. PLEASE HELP!

    I disagree with trying to turn a hug into a kiss. Kino is good so she gets use to it and desire for it. Trying to kiss close in clubs are fine, works because of booze and the nature of that game. But in day game and first dates I try to not kiss close. It shows patience and in general it is very awkward and lacks passion. Unless you find a good moment for it. The zoo was a good choice, first dates with activity and not having to pay for anything is good, as women are interested in the moment. They can always describe how they felt, what you did, and what you both wore etc.

    Dates and etc is where I see the mystery method and game of that nature failing. Look up David Wygant stuff, he is helping with day game and being able to hold conversations. Key is listening well and digging deeper so the woman feels an emotional connection. An example of a first date I had yesterday, I found out her parents are both good cooks then I asked her favorite dish she enjoys from both of them. That is an emotional connection which women desire, but also challenge her. Instead of boring what do you do chat, lead the conversation and the direction it goes.

    I've had better success not going for a first date kiss. But I put my ego away, try to be a little patient and not think of f-closing. You build an emotional connection with the female I find I have better sex with quality women. Who wants to f a girl who just lays there, I like it when the girl wants to rip my clothes off and is passionate about it. If you can show you can build that emotional connection and be a powerful man, women love pleasing and desire powerful men, and will do anything for you.

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    Default Re: First Date in a Week. PLEASE HELP!

    I admit, i wanted a kiss close coz i've not had any contact in a while, and wanted to feel good, but it never felt right, so didnt force it. just enjoyed her company.

    never went to the zoo, but we've already agreed to go after xmas/new year.

    i fully agree with you, there's no point f closing if there's no emotion behind it (unless you have no intentions of seeing eachother again, and its just an ego boost)

    I really like this girl. I wouldnt call it one-itis, but i enjoy spending time with her, and i think she feels the same.

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    Default Re: First Date in a Week. PLEASE HELP!

    I might be a bit late for this perspective but I wanted to share a view to the OP and maybe he has already done this.

    what if you went out into the field nearly ever day to try and get phone numbers with no intention of calling them. Let me explain.

    Once you know you can do game of closing dates then having a date a full week away almost becomes to far away to think to much about it.

    When I read the title of ...in a week..I thought to myself 'I think I might have a date this weekend but I am not sure I even want to go out with this one I will worry about it later'...

    I guess I am further along then I might think


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