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    candys12 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Really messed up. Apologize or freeze-out?

    "I understand mistakes were made. Good luck [name]."

    Is this a reasonably alpha way to apologize or is no response at all better? She broke up with me, btw.

    Oh yea, I genuinely messed up and I honestly think its the right thing to do if nothing else.

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    Default Re: Really farked up. Apologize or freeze-out?

    If you said or did something really bad, degrading or hurtful apologize but don't apologize if you were being yourself but failed to capitalize on a situation. If saying sorry doesn't get you in her pants again though I wouldn't bother

    What you wrote is ok but ambiguous to who's responsibility the mistakes were. Perhaps rather than thinking about what an 'alpha male' would do, consider what a 'responsible male' would do. Take responsibility for your mistakes fully (if they are truly justified - more info on your 'mistakes' would be good) then freeze and start dating other women.

    Move on and upwards...

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    Default Re: Really fucked up. Apologize or freeze-out?

    Agreed with WD, need more info to help..

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    Default Re: Really fucked up. Apologize or freeze-out?

    Yea im never gonna get with her again anyway so i went ahead dn did it.

    what happened was I cheated on her and got pissed when she found out. I saw her some months later and tried getting her to hang out but she was still hurt.

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    Default Re: Really farked up. Apologize or freeze-out?

    Quote Originally Posted by candys12 View Post
    what happened was I cheated on her and got pissed when she found out. I saw her some months later and tried getting her to hang out but she was still hurt.
    Did I read that right? You cheated on her, then got pissed when she found out about you? Who was angry, you or her?
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    Default Re: Really fucked up. Apologize or freeze-out?

    Freeeeeeeeze out! Dude be a man, ignore that shit! The most important person in any relationship is you!

    Get out sarging and get more chicks and fucking leave this one in the dust, no apology, you are more likely to have her chase you for that apology than she would for your dick if you really fucked her over, freeeze out, never speak to her again, get more pussy, rinse, repeat
    We are limited only by our creativity.

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    Default Re: Really fucked up. Apologize or freeze-out?

    If you really messed up then tell her that your sorry and that you regret hurting her, wish her the best and leave it at that.

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    Default Re: Really fucked up. Apologize or freeze-out?

    Prepare to be a doormat if you apologise dude, I would only say sorry if I killed someone.

    Some people I might not even bother.
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    liukang75 is offline PUA Forums Respected Contributor
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    Default Re: Really fucked up. Apologize or freeze-out?

    Why would he be a doormat by being a man and admitting that he f'd up? A man can admit when he is wrong for something and it wouldn't make him look weak or needy to do so. As long as he doesn't beg and plead for her to come back, a short text could be effective.

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    Default Re: Really farked up. Apologize or freeze-out?

    Quote Originally Posted by liukang75 View Post
    Why would he be a doormat by being a man and admitting that he f'd up? A man can admit when he is wrong for something and it wouldn't make him look weak or needy to do so. As long as he doesn't beg and plead for her to come back, a short text could be effective.
    This isn't really a debate it's more an expression of other peoples mindsets.

    I do well with women consistently and my Mindset is

    "The most important person in the relationship is me, I am and will always be an asshole, and I don't give a fuck"

    I have the best relationships with my girlfriends and they always know that my frame is the strongest and they always get the same person they expect.

    This guy can apologise all he want's until his thumbs fall off from texting for all I care, but tell me this, what if you stopped a chick in the street intending to pick her up and she flipped and started swearing and shouting and screaming at you? Would you apologise? you fucked up after all by stopping her didn't you?

    Fucking up is subjective and I'm on a low information diet.. in short why they fuck would he bother apologising? is he ok? Of course he is, he is worried about his reputation and in turn his ego, therefore he is scared of the social repercussions of his actions and not the feelings of the girl.

    His ego is his enemy and he will be a better man fro realising that and shedding the bullshit along with it.

    I wouldn't apologise and I don't think he should either.
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