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    Kreative Kemist is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Possibly sociopathic now-ex-wife is mom of my son

    OK,
    This is an incredibly complex situation, and I admit and realize my part, and the many mistakes I made.

    The present situation (to the best of my objective understanding) in a nutshell is that she has a long history of childhood and teenage sexual abuse, when I met her she pursued me, misrepresented herself and her relationship goals, she compulsively lies, has cheated, and a licensed couples counselor essentially told me to my face that she has some, as of yet, unidentified mental illness.
    Now she says that she thinks she never wants to be married to anyone ever, and thinks she is "polyamorous".

    But she's the mother of my 2-1/2 year old little boy.

    Does any of the knowledge gained in studying PUA apply to this type of girl?
    (I've read that 1 in 25 people is a sociopath)

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    Default Re: Possibly sociopathic now-ex-wife is mom of my son

    I don't think there's any material to get a woman to become monogamous without her pledging her alliance to you. PUA is about self-improvement and attracting/seducing women. I have never come across material to make a woman monogamous with another man.

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    Default Re: Possibly sociopathic now-ex-wife is mom of my son

    Sorry your going through this man. Please keep in mind that I am no expert but I will try to give you the best advice based on what I've learned on here and in my studies. You can't make a woman do anything. You can only lead them by being the alpha and that doesn't even guarantee that they will do what you want--but it up's your chances for sure. It sounds like she has some serious issues and you might be better off without her. I know that it's terrifying because you have a kid with this woman but do you want her to be faithful to you or not? It doesn't sound like she even knows how to be in a normal relationship. Run!!! Talk to a lawyer, be there for your son, and get outta dodge my friend. Remember, alot of times we are attracted to dysfunctional people because there is unresolved dysfunction in us. If you work on your issues you will see the wrong ones from a mile away. Get some counselling of your own. It looks like your in for some tough moments in the days and weeks ahead.

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    Default Re: Possibly sociopathic now-ex-wife is mom of my son

    "Remember, a lot of times we are attracted to dysfunctional people because there is unresolved dysfunction in us. If you work on your issues you will see the wrong ones from a mile away. Get some counseling of your own."

    Thanks for the words of encouragement and wisdom.
    I suppose another way of asking what I want to know is - do people find that being the alpha and all that other stuff works well with chicks that find are "crazy", or do they just identify them right off the bat and steer clear from the get-go?

    I hear ya on the counseling thing, man. Sadly, I often feel that a lot of the counselors I've met and talked with don't really want to get in there and hash things out with me - which brings me to another thing I was wondering:

    I've seen some of the systems that classify different types of girls and their motivations. Is there a similar classification system for men? Wouldn't helping us understand ourselves better help us better relate to women?
    I mean I know there's the MMPI and other standard psych tests, but are is there any knowledge that PUA's have picked up along the way that "realtes solely to themselves"? Obviously being a better man helps you attract better women. I'm also
    curious if women have a PUA system that address us.

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    Default Re: Possibly sociopathic now-ex-wife is mom of my son

    Not sure if pua's steer clear from the get-go. I think everyone is different and maybe some guy's are attracted to the crazy ones because of thier own personal issues. Believe me, I know that my farked up childhood is the reason why I have been attracted to certain girls including my current girlfriend. If you work through your own issues you will actually be immediately turned off by certain behaviors that used to draw you in. At least that's what my counselor says, who knows? As far as the counselling thing goes, I would keep trying until you find the right one. It would help you heal alot faster if you do decide to leave and you would need the support, I'm sure. Not sure if there is a female pua thing. Why would women need pua training? They get approached or hit on constantly from the time they hit puberty. I think they are far more advanced in that area then men are. I would focus on learning the game from our side first before trying to learn anything else. Just my take...

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    Default Re: Possibly sociopathic now-ex-wife is mom of my son

    I get women that are into learning PUA, liukang. In general, we judge women by their looks. If they look good, we want them, if they don't we don't want them. But sometimes, when women use Kino, dress sexy and walk in a sexy way and stuff, they can go up like 1.5 points (just like boring, numb women can go down in points). That makes them able to attract a man of higher value than those who look the same as them but don't use kino, dress sexy and walk sexy.

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    Default Re: Possibly sociopathic now-ex-wife is mom of my son

    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    I get women that are into learning PUA, liukang. In general, we judge women by their looks. If they look good, we want them, if they don't we don't want them. But sometimes, when women use Kino, dress sexy and walk in a sexy way and stuff, they can go up like 1.5 points (just like boring, numb women can go down in points). That makes them able to attract a man of higher value than those who look the same as them but don't use kino, dress sexy and walk sexy.
    Good point Virgil, I just hope there's no secret society of fat, ugly, female pua's out there using tactics to get in our pants. On second thought, I think that there might just be considering how many buddy's I've seen nail 2's when thier drunk. Only teach the hot one's o.k.!


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