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    Unhappy Herpes and Pushing Too Hard

    So just to get this out of the way I do have herpes and I have for 8 years, its gone dormant within my body and is virtually impossible to spread.

    That being said let me give you the run down of my situation here:

    I met a HB10 on POF and used text attraction techniques to get her number and began a texting conversation. Playing a slow roll game I eventually was able to meet up with her and have drinks. It went smashingly well and she left utterly infatuated and in love with me.

    This scared her and she expressed her concerns, using philosophy and intellect I was able to get over her shit tests and find my way into her heart.

    We hung out a 3 or 4 times within a couple weeks. Upon our last date I made her dinner etc and it ended in an f-close. After we had our after sex cigarette she began asking if I had any STD's and I admitted to having herpes. She was very upset that I wasn't honest with her about it to begin with. (Which is understandable) she said she was shocked and speechless. I told her I would give her some space to figure it out.

    But the connection we felt (and her being a HB10) made me push a bit too hard with a barrage of text messages the next day trying to utilize my knowledge and philosophy to win her back.

    Additionally I pulled some major AFC moves and showed up at her work with a balloon, poem and lunch for her. Which worked for a moment, she texted "thank you" back to me, and rather than leaving it at that and giving her space like I should have, I continued to push through text to try and meet up to talk, eventually she had went dark again.

    I deleted her from all of my social media in an effort to stay away.

    The next day (yesterday) I tried my best not to message her, but a meme I saw on FB was the excuse I used to send it to her. After a quick conversation she said "I don't think I could ever trust you again". I panicked, I sent another barrage of texts to her professing my love and etc, even showed up at her work again for the second day in a row to try to talk to her. She humored me for 5 minutes and then I left with the promise that she would "call later".

    I texted her couple hours later asking when she would call and if I could come over, she said "no, not tonight, I already told you that", and rather than just accepting that I continued to text, making her more defensive. Eventually I left it with a sappy "if its meant to be I'll hear from you again someday" text.

    I woke up this morning and she had blocked me from FB (even though I had unfriended her a day before?).

    I am well aware of all of the mistakes I made by pushing and acting like a needy AFC, even though I had messed up by not telling her about my herpes, it was still no excuse to act like a wuss.

    I am fairly certain that I pushed too hard and completely killed the attraction and love that had made me "oneitis" with her in the first place.

    My only question for you guys is if there is anything left for me to do? Obviously she needs time, but do I wait a week and try something else? Or is this one of those situations where I simply have to wait and see if she comes back. Am I completely out of ammo here?

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    Default Re: Herpes and Pushing Too Hard

    I recommend moving on. Not sure whether protection was used with the sex, but an STD is always going to hurt trust (especially if sex was unprotected).
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    Default Re: Herpes and Pushing Too Hard

    The sex was unprotected.

    Unfortunately that is the answer I figured I would get, to just move on lol

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    Default Re: Herpes and Pushing Too Hard

    It seems you already know what you did wrong... if not it's very obvious you pushed way too hard. Showing up with flowers, barrages of messages, etc etc. Never a good move man
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    Default Re: Herpes and Pushing Too Hard

    I know, I just felt I had to do something to make up for the broken trust and not telling her about the herpes.

    Clearly I did waayyyy too much

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    Default Re: Herpes and Pushing Too Hard

    At this point there is nothing left to do but move on... correct?

    I figured if anybody had a better answer than that it would be you guys lol

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    Default Re: Herpes and Pushing Too Hard

    Short answer, move on. Plenty of other women.
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    Default Re: Herpes and Pushing Too Hard

    You had sex, this is pick up. Why is the advice to move on unfortunate? If you can get laid once you can get laid again. Goal accomplished, next chick. Celebrate your victory and get another HB10. 1 down, 3.5 billion more women to f-close.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: Herpes and Pushing Too Hard

    Quote Originally Posted by flyguyinMN View Post
    At this point there is nothing left to do but move on... correct?

    I figured if anybody had a better answer than that it would be you guys lol
    If your herpes is dormant then you didn't affect her. However, she doesn't seem to know it.
    Anyway, the better answer is for you to move on, like all of the above posters already said. There's no better advice than that.

    By the way, making the sweet love for the first time and after that professing your love for her is just too much out of place and impossible. Only young teens do that.

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    Default Re: Herpes and Pushing Too Hard

    Exactly, ^^^^^^^^^^ If it isn't an issue for her, there is probably no point telling her about it.

    What she is thinking now, is the same as what everyone does in this situation.

    Usually if you have unprotected sex for the first time or early on, Any girl/Guy is going to be concerned about STD, So she asked you Hoping/expecting the answer was going to be "No"which alot of people are lucky to get, You however gave her the Answer "That is everyones worst nightmare in this situation.

    Not that its going to effect her, but the fact that she is one of those people who had unprotected sex with someone with a STD that her parents told her about.

    So this is going to have a significant reaction, First now she is blaming you, but she is never going to have unprotected sex again from this point. She is freaked out to the point of never taking that risk again. So until she thinks she is going to marry a guy, I doubt it.

    You however caused all this, Not on purpose but thats the process. Everytime in her life before she has sex with someone, during, after, everytime she buys condoms etc. she will think about you.

    Your chances are over mate. Next chick, Learn from this and maybe not mention it.l;
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.


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