I think routines are great for learning..

but once you get decent at that, just using normal situational game is more natural. What do you guys think?

It's always good to have routines to fall back on, but once you get the experience things just kind of flow.

No routines, no game

i completey disagree. i know lots of guys when learning will stick to routines but when u ask a tre PUA like Bill preston what he prefers i guarantee 100% that he will say direct or situational. doing indirect an opinionated is good when ur tryin to get over aa, but it just isnt as natural.

girls know when ur farking around, while a lot of the time . so by being real with them and doing situatioal then ur going to get a better response and a lot less LMR because she wont know if ur playing her or not.

i will agree that situational and direct is the best once u have been in the game long enough. at the beginning its fun and all but after a while its best to stick to that. just saying!

i guess every PUA or puapractor needs to have a skeme in his head that carries like 10 routines that can be mixed with each other just in case you're gonna stand there with a closed mouth not knowing what to say. Thats why hypnosis and NLP is good to learn because it will fill up al these holes in an intriguing (and if done proper: attractive) way.

Ive had times where i have had to fall back to them when i ran out or needed an attraction spike and couldnt think quick enough. But a natural game is far better. It draws people into the experience more and into your life style.

Dude- if all you doing is routines then i promise you will one day run out of new stuff, and you will get bored and start to look at women in a negative way. Push past the old MM stuff and move into the new world of PU and you will be happy. Trust me, i sure was!