mystery method and natural game

ive been lately reading the mystery method. Its good and i find it quite informative and eye opening. However, it's overwhelming to the point that using it in the field seems a burden because of the excess of info.

Though has anyone here actually follwed the mm step by step and got results? or does natural game seem to be more suitable?

negs..i once heard adam lyons state he isn't a fan of them ( i might be wrong)..if thats the case how are you supposed to Disarm a "10" and get her thinking you aint fazed by her looks...

the whole " Comfort-Rapport + qualification + sex escalation = Attraction" compared to

"attract comfort seduction"

isnt the first formula focusing on comfort first other than attraction? which mystery says isn't the best way to go about getting a ten?

Mystery's method I like to think of as a great theoretical framework. I find that I have better luck with Natural game, and natural game definitely works in the day better than the mystery method. I think MM is good to read and understand and keep in the back of your mind, but it isn't very practical for actual pick-up. There is just too much to remember and the complications can cause you to get nervous. There are more refined, simpler models for pick-up that are more suited to actually meeting women.

what models are they though? are there any for club game and if so what are they called?

though Mystery's students seem to have a fair amount of success in the field...

so with a ten, you would get blown out if you went up and said some such as "Hey your hair looks nice, is it real? looks nice though"

My take on mystery method, it is great for starting, doing Mystery method for 6 months or something can get the shy guys going, if you do my 6 month plan (you can find it) and mystery method 4 times a week for 6 months, I think you can easily start doing natural game and for the most part just quit thinking and start doing. Mystery method will help you learn to Calibrate, and I think even Mystery says at this point that the goal is to eventually not need the canned stuff.


edit: And to add to that, me belief is that you should read 1 e-book, learn it inside out, and then go and do it for a good 2-3 weeks, at least 3-4 times a week. Then you can read another and add on to your tools. I talk to guys all the time and they read all of these e-books, they think "Oh man, I got new tools, this will help me" and they stay at home on friday night reading jugglers or mystery instead of going out and trying the double your dating that they just read.

For me the only ones Ive done is

Annihilation Method dvd (lots of great games, I love this stuff, I use these all the time with me niece and nephew as well)

Mystery Method (good for beginners on opening and calibrating)

Double Your Dating (this guy has good insight on how women think, and good advice)

Hypnotic's Confidence DVD (just good for life)

Authentic Man Program ( I actually use this and vommit up all the energy sh1t that they say, women go nuts "I have learned that women don't speak with words, they use feelings, they can feel the other person, and I can feel you" - sounds sh1tty it works if you say it confidently. In fact, 9/10 times they go a bit red in the face, and I tell them look you're blushing! I use this tool almost every pick up.)

This is the single most important point for anyone trying to become a Pick Up Artist. It is VERY important to read and learn and talk to other guys and analyze what has happened so you can prepare for what to do next or next time.

As critical as the above is, it pales in comparison to getting out and experiencing this stuff for your self. As style said, you can read how to surf for years - but the first time you get up on a wave on that board you are gonna crash. The only way to get better at surfing is to get out in the water and get on that board.

The same goes for becoming good with women.

I have tried a lot of the mystery method and actually succeeded, but now I would like to gather some more information that I can try..... Don't you have any links or e-books I can read that can help me?

There's a thread in the Recommended Books Section of this forum called Must-Have Books fro the PUA. Check it out, you might find something that suits you.