I'm 20, she's 23 and lives with an evident prick. Do I have a chance?

I've been flirting openly with this HB9 in my class for two terms now. I'm not going to go into too much detail but I have some personal theories that things would probably work between us. my only evidence consists of:

-She never mentions her bf & when she does, she mentions how much of a prick he can be.
-She laughs at just about every single joke I crack towards her, some of them making her blush in a good way.
-She talks to me more than anyone else in the classes we have together.
-We make fun of the same stuff (like how goofy the teacher is, and how weird other students are, etc)
-I make a lot of sexual innuendos that make her giggle.
-I don't inflate her ego too much. I spend more time being a confident sex symbol-like person. I do call her something sexy on occasion, but I keep it in check.
-She seems like a crapload of fun to be around, but she works all the time and goes to school full time and just doesn't have a whole lot of time to enjoy herself.

The problem is I don't really notice too many ioi's out of her. I'm on the verge of just telling her how I feel about it but I'm not sure what the best way to approach the situation is.

I have a moral objection with snaking a girl away from a guy but she's still young and seems like she's in a very tired and worn out relationship.

btw, this isn't about just farking this girl, I want more than that.

Hey man I am in a very similar situation. If you check out the thread "there is a girl" in the how to flirt page you can see what I mean.

And I have that problem, I know she has a BF and she has mentioned before plenty of reasons o dump him, but i don't know how to act. She knows I like her for obvious reasons, and I am almost 100% sure I like her. The point is how do I move on from there?:S..Should I tell her how I feel about her or idk wtf to do lol.

i've been bs'ing with her and it seems like there's some chemistry of some sort. i'm just looking for a little seniority and consider some options but seems like there's not much help to be had.

why do you ask if theres a chance? YOU are the MAN, you always have a chance. You are the Alpha male no need to worry about that stuff. Work your game but be aware that she has a man and it could turn into many problems. Also while she could be talking a lot of sh1t about how the guy is a prick, many women love pricks because they are the kind of man they can fix or convert.

i see what your saying. sometimes i get the impression that girls that are older than me tend to steer away for whatever age/maturity reason, and they are the only ones i ever go after (who wants to deal with a high school soap opera b-word?)

i am who i am and i think thats definitely helping. i bought her a silly wind-up toy (because i'm silly in general, i love making women giggle and make their faces turn red) and she thought it was the sweetest thing. then she was talking to me about it in the parking garage and saying silly stuff like "i wonder if you can beat the wind up toy to my car." and then sitting it on the ground.

i kinda like where that went. made me feel alot more confident.

give me info on ur keno Escalation. all of this looks good so far, but thats where im interested at this point.

i'm still working on keno. last week she was working on a photoshop project based on a purple flower and i jokingly asked her if that was her favorite flower, which turned into a running sarcasm about flowers. This week i gave her this flower shaped ink pen and told her that since she works all the time and can't enjoy herself too much then cheap amusement from an incredibly awesome guy like me would bring some sunshine into her day, and that the flower doesn't require water. I didn't say anything else to compliment her for the rest of the night as i don't want to kiss her arse excessively.

it seemed like it scored some points since she giggled and said "i don't know what to think of you" in a seemingly good way. she's also telling me stuff she wouldnt normally say to other people, like how her boyfriend got mad and chucked her new laptop into the wall and broke it recently.

not really sure where to go with this, but the term ends in two weeks and i want to at least be able to hang out when she has time. the last class we have i plan on giving her a real purple flower once we get back to our car and maybe generate some Tension.

there are similarities between my situation and yours mate and i will tell you where mine got too.

The situations are very similar except i am 10 years older and her bf is 20 years older than her. He is basically a washed up criminal and this is about more than farking her so I gotta be careful that I havent found a new bird with a broken wing

Going through all that I started treating her as a gf and I learnt very sharply that being in a relationship with a bastard asshole twist they look to guys like us as friends. Because of our strength and also because of how soft we can be. They feel safe with us and love our energy but to a chick a relationship is everything and to fail at a relationship with an asshole means that she is conceding to the world that she was wrong and is indeed worthless.

They may go out with us or dream of going out with us, but I learnt that the friends angle is really importnt. If your NLP or whatever is good you will gradually reframe the whole thing and by the time she needs you you may well wish you had never got what you wanted.

They make great pivots as they are 9's and they love us and other chicks go he must so have a clue and the others line up.... farc other chicks cos you might never tutti fruit this one. Use the friendship cos up to this point she sure as hell is. They get heaps from us and we feel guilty because oh sh1t I may have unbalanced her world. She is probably mad anyway to be with a tool and to let herself be treated bad.... what he farks her hard??? they come to us for loving male energy. You deserve more from her.... At least press her into service as a Pivot and if she wants you she can make her mind up

Someone has to take authority here and as Creon says it won't be a damn woman! irrational and indecisive. My mother is a world authority at government level on health and is brilliant, but as a mother and a woman is effing insane. my father who who is real authority on watching sport in front of the tv has to take charge and make sure that she doesn;t chase her own head around the chook yard. true

get in the car with some of these chicks driving and i dont care how clever they are... they can not drive for sh1t (not all females but many) a man needs to be in charge driving the show and they all want it. all they want is a real man to tell them that they're bum don't look big in it

take charge suddenly, or take charge gently. either way you are taking charge.... it sounds like she is gravitating toward you already. (why is the tool jealous of the computer??? duH! she sees you in class) he might hammer her but guys like us captivate their hearts and imaginations and they want us to save them from the ogre. only thing is there are a lot of HB damsels on the way to her heart

Coyote i have to disagree with you somewhere around there, she may not have turned him into a friend only guy. she could be analizing him but one thing is for certain, shes a fixer. she likes to fix people, if the guy turns around into a nice guy he loses her and loses him attraction via being a bad boy.

girls like those could trick us into believing they want the romantic type when they actually want the bad boy they want to turn into a good guy.

you want her, show her how bad ass you are and you get a better chance.

like a master once said: "women aint nothing but trick and hoes"