Need help on strategy/game plan! :-)

Hi, i have a game plan i wrote down after reading the game, wathcing youtube films and going around alot of PUA sites. But still, it really doesnt work as much as id like it to... So i thought id post it here, and see if you guys could find out whats wrong with it, and what i should add/remove from it. Now this isnt something i do everytime, but its just to show you some of it... thanks


1. Open, i usually go with "are you that boring since you are sitting here alone" Or "you know, ive been sitting next to you for a while.. but you havent said hi to me yet, kindda rude..."

2. one or two negs, like "wow i like your shoes, i bet they were pretty cool when they were new, huh?" and brush off dust from her shoulder or something

3. i pretend i'm going to show her a magic trick, take her hands and spin her around, then take her seat. If i can't do this, i move to #4

4.i start a playfull conversation, where i do a playfull game with her, ask her whats her favorite washing method, do a bad moonwalk or something like that

5. sexually conversation, i get a little closer with my bodylanguage, gambler style, ask her if her parents would like me, and comments about the future and such, like "do you like taco?" HB: yes...? "Sweet, we should go grab some sometime", to get off the bitch-shield, and so she wont feel like a slut when kissing me (because in her mind, we will meet again)

6. I Isolate her, by either turning further away from her friends, or ask if she wants to grab a smoke outside, where i get closer bodylanguage/contact and talk more about the future(not to much 5-10 times alltogether) and be more playfull with her

7. i ignore her for while, till she talks to me again, or if it goes to long i contact her again..

8. i have my wingman do the PHOTO-ROUTINE (1. photo where we are smiling, 1. where we are being serious and 1. where she is kissing me on the cheek)

now i also wonder, is there a 9th thing i should add, what would be smart to do and what would a smart location at for example a party be a good place for me to kiss her? Please return comments and help, thanks in advance! :-)

actually this is a pretty good routine but i wouldnt stick to a certain thing. maybe instead of certain things you have some choices in each step. I like the openers, they are playful but they are a little too direct. Some girls might find it creepy. I would try something else like an indirect or opinionated about the situation like "hey i wanted to ask you a quick question. What do you think of people who are sitting near each other and know its awkward but still dont say hi....(pause) and then laugh a little and say i was just kidding. My name is ___ what is urs" it opens her, shows your playful, made it situational and unique and then lowered her Bitch Shield.
the neg is good but you should have some others on hand like "nice shoes, i remember when those were in style" something like that. if you can tell she is huge into fashion tease her about that. or if she seems into other stuff tease her about whatever you have seen about your target. most girls wear there interests on their sleeves.
third one is actually good, i might steal that. maybe just another choice just in case you seem like your target is nervous or not very touchy/feely.
the fourth one i would change. you have been so playful and funny, keeping it going especially with a moonwalk makes you seem a little creepy. play like the three question game. where you ask
" what is better a warm bath or shower. Which is the sexier/better food whipped cream, chocalate syrup, or strawberries and then whats better a kiss on the neck or on the ear" the answers are bath, strawberries and neck. neg her if she gets it wrong and make a false disqualifier. Like "omg you think a kiss on the ear is better than on the neck. i cant talk to those kinds of girls" and then pretend to get up and leave. but then just come back and laugh. have a couple of light examples for games but if you do this one you have to be playful and have a smile on because it may seem romantic or sexual. so tease her with a smile on your face at all times to make the conversation light.
Sexual Tension building is good but dont use projection unless its third person projection and then dont make it something about her family or anything. you can actually use the game to use a third person projection. something like "ok well i once heard that girls that like chocalate syrup go crazy about guys who (say something silly that relates to you something like)...have sick dance moves." then you can do ur ridiculous moon walk and then follow up with something silly while she is laughing like " its ok if you want to rape me here in public, im pretty sure i just drove all the girls here crazy. so now your going to have to be really sexy/interesting/whatever to keep me here"
six is good. isolation after sexual tension building is good, but throughout this entire thing you need to be using keno and during isolation you should be using more than anything. and maybe at this high point is a good time for Number Close and perhaps followed up with a kiss close if its a good situation for it.
then its time to good and leave when her attraction is at a high point. dont devalue your image to her by staying too long so the rest should be gone. unless its at a club or bar. run into her later and maybe you could end the night with a fark close but always leave and do your thing and then come back and remind her of the good time with you earlier. and then if you come back and hang out for a little to try for the fark close you could use the photo routine to use more keno and get close and start up an escalation ladder.

Try the question game. If you dont know what it is search it, its all over this forum. It builds alot of attraction and lets you talk about sex. Conversation shifter.

Also work on some DVH stories that you can pepper in to get her to be naturaly attracted to you.

You have a good structure, but as any fighter knows strategy and structure goes out the window when the first punch is thrown. So you have to know form, and rely on it. Not a bad start let us know how it develops for you.

hey guys thanks for replying, yeah crobinson1 i havent been very pro with openers, and i can see alot of girls get lost there... usually when i do pick ups, i am at a party (i am 18) and not very often at a bar, cause 18 year olds bars here are just noizy and stuffy, i dont use the same lines each time ofc, but i try to change the openers all the time the "are you that boring since your here alone" is a line ive found working at parties, if they even just sat down, cause girls love explaining things to guys, the negs your also very right, i seem to either over do it, or under do it... im either of dlv or just an asshole. So thanks for your, i didnt know the type of teasing for something funny, was the same as a neg... Thanks for the game you wrote also, i love fun and games in a Pick up, so thats awsome, and thanks for the moonwalk help, now i can make it work further, also i have been having a hard time getting the sexual lines to work, so ill see if yours gets me any more further If you have any more i would love to know them! One i have just added to my strategy is one i read at this forum, the horror movie game, i pretend im making a horror movie, and asks if she has any advice, wich leads us to talking through each scene, wich can become pretty funny, and also pretty sexual, for example by talking about a sex-scene :-)

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Yeah thanks, i will check that out! Thanks for tip
i dont really have any good dhv stories around, i just make myself become friends with people around me, so if you have any tips there too, it would be great? Thanks!

your welcome. yeah teasing, keno, negging, dhv stories, and then just making a good conversation and getting her to think of you sexually is good. But as far as DHV stories you can steal some things from youtube. there is one, just search succeddatdating.com on youtube and try to find his DHV stories. I love them and they worked amazingly and helped me to make my own. i have dhv stories for tons of things. but yeah you did good, just always keep in mind the structure cause once your in it, you dont have time to think just do. So ur inner game needs to be strong and you need to just have a setup for things. and sh1t if your at parties you should be fark closing quite a bit. lets work on that. if you need more specific advice just put some questions and ill answer later today.

yeah, my plan for good playful conversation, is i usually let it go its way, but if my brain locks or something like that, i always have a game or a fun little magic trick ready, so i wont sit there in a uncomfortable silence. Kino i am really into, i love when a girl is talking and i just walk towards her with smile and look her in the eyes, love how she forgets what she is saying because of the Sexual Tension (tencion?) yeah, thanks ill look up some good dhv stories havent been all on top there, umm fark closing, you mean f-closing? Cause yeah thats where i usually get to once ive started making out with a girl, as long as there is a place/room for it Yeah, i was wondering if you had some other neg ways? Bcause no matter what i do, i seem to always wind up as the a-hole, cause im so afraid to seem like a dlv :P thx :-)

you know good negs you just have to make it seem playful and nothing to serious. there actually is a big post on here about a neg list. you should check it out. some really good negs on there

its under most viewed and its titled ultimate list of negs

thanks

storm i feel like ur game is pretty good but you just need to practice it and perfect your personal style. i feel like you know the underlying themes of overall good pick up and how to use it. you just need to smooth out the edges and you will be good bro