URGENT: Setting up a day 2!!

Hey guys,

This is the problem. 3 days ago, my friend and I did some day game. We went to the streets and used indirect game on a 2 set, under the pretense that we were looking for a local designer store and that I was an exchange student (I am based in China, but not Chinese) and he was showing me around. Anyhow, we ran this thread for quite some time and we got them to walk with us to near the locale they suggested. Then after around 10 minutes my wing asked for his target for her number, she didn't want to give it to him, and asked her friend to give hers instead. Her friend complied and gave him her number.

Then we made some mistakes, we called them twice on the same day. Once, for my friend asking them whether he could give the other girl's (which was my target) number to me and the second time on the same day he asked whether they'd like to hang out with us sometime soon. After a long wait, they replied that they weren't available.

Now, I haven't called them yet, and am going to call my target today. The thing is they might've smelt that we have some interest in them and that might have triggered their ASD. Now, I would like to ask them both out but on our first encounter I doubt there was enough Comfort or attraction. Although we did make them giggle a bit...So I was wondering what YOU recommend on how to handle this situation. I know to have the abundance mentality and go for another one, but I want to plow through this set and see how it goes.

My thoughts are to call her and then tell her that myself and my wing shall be going out with some friends to so and so place, I'll give them the time and venue and give them the option of coming or not (thus giving them the impression that we don't need them and have not much interest in them, hopefully lowering their ASD), this invitation shall be veiled under the excuse that it was fun talking to them and thus they can hang out with us. What do you think?

P.S. The girl doesn't know I can speak her language, I spoke English to her. I have no plans to reveal that I know the language either. So while calling her today it might be a bit tricky to make her understand...

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!

lol well first off totally AFC to ask for ur wing to ask if you could get the number. you should have pulled it when his target refused "ok well you guys seem really cool but... here give me your number and you guys can come out to ..." easy enough. so ur AFC move was not pulling her number and then it was also bad to contact same day to say meet up. looks impatient and needy...haha well first off, if she doesnt know you can speak her language maybe you could surprise her thus building some rapport and Comfort. then basically you need to throw solid text game to make up for your mistakes and get her interested in you.

Gee I don't know if you can work it back. I'm not going to hammer home cribs point but you acted really needy and in return they are not going to want to see or talk to you. Especially if she didn't give you her number and you start texting her... Kind of stalkerish... This sounds like there was no Comfort built in set and in return they didn't respond to yalls request. This might be one where you just give it up to the game learn from it and move on.

Sorry I can't offer you an answer.

Hey,

I went ahead and SMSed her w/o the belief that she'd SMS back. Mainly because of lack of Comfort during our encounter. My exact text:

"Hey, this is the exchange student you and your friend showed around last Sunday. Thanks for that...You two seemed like a fun group. My friends and I are going to this really GOOD place this Friday and if you an your friend want to come that's fine, if not its ok with me. Cheers"

She replied with:

"Oh. I'm afraid that we can't. Recently, i got a summer job. Do you have msn?"

This was something that if she replied I was expecting, due to initial display of neediness. But not the latter bit of asking for my instant messenger account.

This kind of confused me since the former part of her text could be interpreted as an excuse to get away...Or it could be genuine. I don't know. Now, it's confusing because if it were an excuse why is she asking for my instant messenger? This in itself could be a way to seem polite. Not sure.

Please comment.

My plan ahead is to be frank with her that I am indeed not an exchange student, but not to talk with her in her language. Simply because it might dhv me if I possess some knowledge far greater than hers. English...use msn to game her then ask her out. Not sure, if I should ask her friend out for my wing as well...

no if you have the number dont not take steps back and go to msn. she has a phone on her all the time and not a computer. haha usually when you open a girl online the process is meet her, build rapport and Comfort, get the number, meet up and completely move away from contact over computer. by taking that step back you are messing up. i am surprised she responded like that. she would not usually respond if she didnt have some sort of attraction especially if she asked if you had MSN. you might still be in there but you need to really learn some text game. your text seemed too TRY HARD to not seem needy and actually came off like your a d bag or asshole. haha since she will text back you need to start throwing solid text game to try and move towards talking to her on the phone and thats when you ask her out.

So what can be the best way to reply? As you can tell my text game needs some working on.

From your advice, I gather that I should reject her offer to give her my msn. Something like:


Another thought is to say that, "Oh, I don't give my msn to just anybody (to seem as not needy), you could give me yours and I shall add you if I feel like it." This is just to show that I am not needy and create attraction. Or is this an unnecessary step??

or simply change the thread. But to what and how?

the only way to retain a shred of dignity is to delete her number and move on...

seriously

I would tell her you don't have MSN but you'd like to maybe me for a QUICK coffee soon. That way she doesn't have to worry about tying up an entire night, just a half hour or so, during which time you can try to run some solid in-person game. If you feel that there is ANY hope of this working at all. I would think given your minimal investment in the set you wouldn't be so attached, and you didn't seem to have trouble opening it, so I see no reason for you not to forget this one and find a new one. It wasn't a total waste if you go that route; you've recognized your mistakes and figured out how to fix them.

yea i agree. you gotta deny that you have msn (even batter say you are too busy being outside/doing things to be @home on the computer) and move for a date. go for something casual, lunch is good cause its no pressure. even better is pick up some take out and meet somewhere.
i have a blind date on monday, we are meeting @the local beach with a frisbee and some sushi.