Making out... then what? - And this other little issue.

Hi!

I'm new here. First a little introduction.

I'm 22 years old and I live in Oslo, Norway. I read "The Game" three years ago, until then I had no confidence at all. I even got nervous talking to girls about school stuff in class. I learned the basics, some routines and grew more confident. I went to forums and really imroved! I don't consider myself a PUA at all, but feel that I've taken one or two steps from beeing the complete AFC i used to be

Eventually I got to the point where I ended up K-closing almost every time I was out. But my main problem is; I rarely get past making out (and by really i mean REALLY). When I make out with a girl, I feel like I've ran out of thing to say to her

Any good advice?

I could also use some help on this other issue...

I met a girl this summer, she was a bartender the place me and some friends traveled (Greece), from the same place as I (Oslo, Norway). I found her on facebook and after chatting with her for some time back in Norway we exchanged numbers. At this time she was texting and "facebook"ing me all the time, wanting to hang out. The first time we hang out was at a bar, me, her and a friend of her had some drinks and talked for 2-3 hours, had a great time (not being dunk or anything ). She continued texting me, wanting to hang out more, and I got her to come over to my place and watch a movie. We watched a movie and ended up kissing. The next 3-4 times we agreed to meet she texted me the day before and told me she had other things she just HAD TO DO. Grandmother in hospital, family dinner, etc., etc. She eventually texted me; "Call me!". I called her and she told me how sorry she was for ditching me, that she wanted sooo much to hang out and that she enjoyed soooo much being with me. I probably did a huge mistake by telling her "Don't be sorry" etc... She laster invited me to her place for another movie-night, telling me; "Thursday night my roommate is out. Do you want to come over and watch a movie with me?" I was like . I went to her place that thursday. She was at her computer when I came over, she put on a movie and told me that she just had to finish her facebook conversation with her friend, like 5 mins. I thought OK and just chilled out. Her facebook conversation never ended and I ended up sitting there like a complete IDIOT, watching a boring movie while she was at her computer, almost like she didn't want me there!

WTF did I do wrong?!

She's leading you on. It sounds like she's not interested in you anymore but rather than rejecting you to your face, she'd rather take the easy way out by canceling dates and ignoring you. Maybe it was a bad kiss? It really could be anything, not necessarily something you did wrong.

If you really want to get her interested in you again, I would suggest you stop texting her asking to hang out with her and make her jealous by having another girl flirt with you so she can see. Post pictures of yourself on facebook with other girls, but flirting in person would be better.

Also, after you make out with her, try inviting her someplace. Like, out to dinner next week? You shouldn't feel like you've run out of things to say so quickly! Ask her about herself, what she likes, or tell her interesting stories about yourself.

I'm no psychologist, but I'd guess your problem with random girls is the same as with THIS girl: intimacy issues. You just don't know how to deal with the emotions you're feeling. Are you a virgin?

If you're kissing her when you're together, something is going wrong in your sexual Escalation. This is only a guess, but are you afraid to move forward without some sort of signal or "permission?"

dude just do what i do!start making out heavily and then grab her hand and slowly move it closer to your boner if she says NO or WTF just say u got caught up in it... even if she leaves u won't start asking ureself why did we only make out and nothing else c'mon show some balls!

Thak u guys! (I'm not a virgin btw). Got a little confidence again, and great results. Tried your trick Xavier... with a girl at work :P F***ng awsome! PPPpppPPpppPppP

'happy to hear that! here for u anytime bro!' he said in a gay tone of voice :P. but seriously, i'm glad u farked the living sh1t out of her! i should add if they say no after u say u got caught up in it just walk away, go back to work do anything just pretend like sleeping with her is the last thing on your mind, if she senses that it will make her insane.... insanly hot for u

Uhm... I would have not said a word and just got up and left... have some dignity and self respect man.

Exactly.You might or might not have gotten anything, but at least you would've walked away with respect and she would totally respect you more AND she might've felt guilty about what she did and make up for it.