Phone Game Revisited

I'm assuming everyone has met someone before, took time to get to know them (without making it into a system), and became really good friends. You do it so well that you don't have to think about it. Why then should picking up women be soooo hard???

What I'm going to tell you might go against what you've heard from a lot of people. But basically, before you start to worry about getting in bed with a chick or impressing her (you should never try to impress a woman), you should be her BEST FRIEND!!

Yea I said it. You should be her really good friend. You should be the person who she tells EVERYTHING to. Even things she wouldn't tell her other friends. That alone makes her trust you more than anyone else (no brainer there).

How do you do that??

It's very easy. All you need......is her phone number.

Now I've heard some funny things on the internet before, but one of the funniest things you'll hear is some guru's who say that you should not waste any of your time talking to a woman on the phone.

WTF?????

I've never heard such idiocy in my life. Think back to the times when you and your closest friends would spend HOURS on the phone talking about who knows what. Either way, the bond you both shared and that good feeling you have after a great, long conversation feels awesome!!

A woman only hears your voice on the phone. Let's forget the fact that you can turn her on a lot just by slowing down your words and adopting a very sexy tonality. Especially making everything sound like sex. Although that's advanced hehe. She can only use her imagination to see what you are saying. You want a woman to imagine good things about you.

But back to the subject!! Think about how lethal getting a woman on the phone with you is. Don't even think about meeting up. You can spend the week just talking to her. Now, let me raise a few points of concern. For a lot of people, especially women, talking on the phone is very nerve wracking and they initially get nervous. Some women just don't even like to talk on the phone period....UNTIL they get comfortable with you.

That's it?? Yup. If you can establish from the get go that you are fun to talk to over the phone then you don't have to worry about it.

Also, you need to be talking to her to genuinely get to know her. Not some BS convo like "soo....how was your day....." where you could really care less and are just asking her so you can segue into asking her to meet up with you. Why not take advantage of the fact that said woman has live on this earth for so many years. Let's say she is 25. That means she has 25 years of lifetime experiences that she can share with you. Do you know how many experiences and stories that is? That's why you are only fooling yourself when you say you have nothing to talk to a woman or anyone about.

Basically what you want to do is get a woman to open up about herself to you over the phone. Get her to tell you what her family is like. Especially her dad so you can find out how you should be like to her. You'll find that a woman who has had no attention from her father will be more of an attention whore so you can be the father figure in her life and put her in check when she needs to be. A woman who has had a good father will tell you about him and that is who you want to emulate.

You want her to tell you her whole life story over the phone. That will make you so special in her eyes because you will truly know her. Not only that, but you can then leverage that because now you know what makes her tick and what makes her feel whatever emotions you want her to feel. Once you have her mind, you have her body (lets just hope you have good intentions with it and not just to break her heart).

Women LOVE to talk. It is their drug. Just to be able to talk about anything and relate to it is what they are experts at and love to do. So Talk To Women over the phone.

You don't have to call her everyday. You can even find out about her in person when you meet up. However, talking over the phone grows a special kind of bond that when you take to each other in person just grows that new found familiarity.

Also, she can't be the only one blabbing. You have to tell her about you too. In fact, the more you tell her about you, the more you can just sit back and let her talk away. Just be a good listener and show her you do care about what she says and thinks. That's what a woman tries to tell you anyway when she talks to you. She tries to tell you how it is she thinks about certain people, situations, and beliefs. You are there to reaffirm her beliefs and push her to achieve her goals. That's what building relationships are all about.

Hope that helps everyone!!

I stopped reading at "be her friend". If you dont want her, of course be her friend. But not if you want to be with her.

Were not emotional tampons. I dont care how much her purse cost. I want her in my bed!

Hmmmm. That's probably why you STILL haven't gotten laid buddy. When you bitch about your problems and great things that happened to you during your day to your friend, does that make him an emotional tampon?? Think about that. How are you gonna bed a woman you don't know anything about. Even if she's hot. That in itself is you saying you are not worth getting to know a really good female. Or maybe your just blinded because you never have sex and thats all you think you need....

Ummmmm....I have a girlfriend, refer to my topics.


Enjoy being friendzoned and your blueballs you "player"

Well quite contrary to common PUA belives, friendzone isn't the nosexzone. I think that it is pandoras box (but I can be misstaken) that says that friendship can be used as away to sleep with her. I my self is friends with benefits with my best friend (when we are both singel). And I can asure you, it started with simply friendship. BUT you still need high attraction, and you need higher or equal social proof than her. You can't just build Comfort. And it will be really hard to build attraction after you build comfort.

Well see that's where we both differ. learninglegend calls me a player because he thinks that i look at women and all i think about is how I can have sex with them. Therefore he read my post thinking that this method was used to guarantee pussy. I honestly think he is lying his pants off by telling me he has a girlfriend. If he really does, that relationship isnt lasting long. If you really read my post, then what I say to do is exactly what boyfriend and girlfriend do. I would never allow myself to be friend zoned because I would be upfront with my INTENTIONS from the get go. You guys obviously wouldnt because you listen to all these people who tell you to be indirect with your game. What nonsense. Not saying that Indirect Game is bad but if thats all people use then its no wonder they are where they are at. There is NOTHING wrong with being a woman's friend. I don't USE people as friends to have sex with them. Friends don't USE other people. Think about that. Then think again how messed up and out of wack saying a sentence like that is. You guys (and I don't just mean you I mean a majority of people in this forum) have your intentions so out of wack. Its clear you don't even know what to expect from women. You talk about them as if they are just there for sex. And you can deny that but based on what you typing to me right now I can tell its so obvious. I used to be like that so I know its true. If I get to know a woman, I'm going to consider how I can change her life and she can affect mine. When I talk on the phone, it doesn't mean I'm not going to display no Sexual Tension. Then I would get blueballed. Why? Because I would have been hiding my INTENTION!! That's why. You don't get friendzoned because you are a woman's best friend. It's because you act like you don't like her the way you do. You hide it until she makes the rightful assumption that you are just friend material. Think about that. INTENTION, INTENTION, INTENTION! DONT BE AFRAID TO TELL THESE WOMEN WHAT IT IS!!! I will say it til im blue in the face. Stop using the word social proof too. Reminds me of damn high school. You dont have to have higher social proof than her. You have to have a stronger sense of IDENTITY than her. Think about that...

I myself tend to walk the very fine line between potential and friend!!!

I agree wit ifeanyiboy in that you're not really "friends" with the target.....thats what they always are.....targets....
i'm assuming that the majority of guys here and PUA's in general are respectful to women and do not use them in any way.....for me PUA's are masters of knowing exactly how to treat women with grace and charm.....any guy who uses women is not a player!!

So, to say these targets are friends would be wrong and unethical. however, i understand where learninglegend is coming from.....this game needs careful planning and longevity. the whole pint is to NOT get friendzoned by letting her see the what i call the "boyf potential" in you.....as posted above, the relationship being described (talking on the phone, sharing common experiences, getting to know each other more intimatly than anyone else in the social circle) is exactly that of boyfriend/girlfriend.

its almost preparing her for the inevitable course of your relationship....even tually the only change will be the exact definition of your relationship.....