You dont need PUA

If you people want to know how to pick up women

All you need is to have a NORMAL conversation with them,dress nicely, and be confident


You don't need special tips, advices, books, audio tapes or DVDs. Women aren't stupid or robots
There's no magic words, Thats just full of bullsh1t.

You guys just need to be confident in yourselves. These is no techniques or secrets to Get Girls.

Just trust in yourself and learn how to move on when heart broken.

If you like someone, just get to know them for awhile and ask them out. All this PUA does is ruining people's lives.

Sounds like someone who has no idea how much fun it can be when you are a good PUA who can Attract Women every time he goes it...

You mean QUALITY women, Playa.

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Total bullsh1t.

I fell on my face 2000 times to know what I know.

Are you starting a hate thread? lmao Shaking things up?

seduction is art.

Now that I know how to seduce women like a pro the stuff i know that I see people pay for..... I understand there is a science.

"All the pick-up techniques work but are bound to fail....b/c of lack of style, confidence, and conversation skills." -Noble Casalupus


Most men don't have style, confidence , of conversation skills. Hence the PUA stuff. It truly helps to get their feet wet. Good Luck all
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-Stevie (dice thrower)

I don't understand why some people are anti-Seduction. seduction, at least how I define it, is a game played between men and women, using Sexual Tension, to demonstrate value to one another in a playful and fun like manner. Doesn't really sound all the bad now does it?

Me personally, before I started studying seduction I was bad, really really bad (and still am but getting better!) with women (and trust me it was not form a lack of trying). So that whole just be yourself statement that I read and hear often is Bull.

Another hate thread..

Do u guys really spend thousands just to learn how to speak to a human being? I Mean it's not difficult, really just be confident. Anyone could get a pretty lady. All u need is to act normal, no magic tricks or bullsh1t Rounties. Even a fat person without PUA skills can be a ladies man. Seducing is not even difficult and there is no such thing as speed seduction. It's all a fake. All you need is to be confident of yourself and learn to accept you can't get any girls u want...but I guarantee you will get a BEAUTIFUL GIRL in your life if you master "trail and error" there's no need a rountine or bullsh1t Peacock.

1. Some men have trouble conversing with women, dresing nicely, and being confident. While it comes easy to some, it doens't to most.

2. "Special tips" give men with confidence problems a bit more confidence with the belief the action has worked with other women in the past. Personally, I never fault anyone for doing research on anything; even though, I choose pioneer most of my experiences with women. However, I do research what's needed to work on my motorcycle, among other things.

3. Some women are stupid. However, to most men, the way women react to the world in comparison to men's methods of dealing with life allow men to think of women as veritably "stupid". Correct, they are not robots.

4. Some men can't just "be confident". Almost all men can be taught to be confident (same as women). There actually are techniques to get girls. Look up the definition of "technique". You don't have to like it, but you are wrong.

5. Trusting in yourself comes after success, generally. Most men aren't born successful; they have to work to make their lives successful. Moving on after having your heart broken is a very personal thing that can not be diminished through those words from a stranger on an internet forum; why even try.

6. Okay. To some men that's like saying: "You need to tighten your drive chain" to a first time motorcycle rider, then, walking off. Most people would need further instruction.

7. A bold statemnet born in emotion that has no bearing of facts. Would you like to share a story, at least, of what PUA's have done that has "ruined lives"?

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Personally, I think the idea of being a PUA is kind of stupid. It's unecessary to put another title on men wanting to have meaningful relationships with women, wanting to be comfortable with women, and/or having sex with as many women as possible (all of which are part of the PUA idea).

I am what I am. Women are my favorite subject. I choose to fill my life with them and thoroughly enjoy theior company. You cannot use even a great many words to describe what I am.

There are PUA fanboys out there that I find annoying. For example, the fact I can't type the words "set, seduction..." without a link to some other page really pisses me off. My posts are carefully designed to convey my intent and the extra emphasis often detracts from my meanings.

It's interesting to me that some in the "PUA Community" hold some in such esteem. They buy their books, pay for their seminars, even pay for time to chat with them online or through another medium. This is not meant to dismiss their "abilities in pickup". I have no personnal knowledge about any of them. Nor is it menat to be a dis to the "students". It's thier lives, not mine.

Perhaps, if you looked at the PUA Community for what I use it for, you would take less peronal offense to the idea. A place for those who can, and can teach, to be found by those with a need.

I only post in threads where I have personal knowledge based on my individual experiences. I don't subscribe to the ideals of many on here, but it doens't hurt me in any way that many out there choose to. I refuse to post most of my techniques (especially, the specific words or routines) because I don't want them bastardized. I will usually post the principles and theories. I don't use most of the lingo and when I do, it's only so a larger amount of readers easier understand my posts.

Do you go to forums for aspiring race car drivers and tell them to "just drive fast, be nice to sponsors, and be at the finnish line before all the other racers?"

Also, if your going to come onto a board and attack (albiet politely) the members, try using better grammar.

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I have failed more than most men have tried.

Every woman you pass up is a woman you will never have.

Nik - the links are to help guys who either are not familiar with the terms or want more information on a topic.

1. I believe some do.

2. Magic tricks are fun and do Attract Women. Although they, in themselves, are not needed, the showmanship necessary to perform well with magic greatly help in all human interaction.

3. I presume you mean routines (PUA term) that are canned material. Not the dictionary definition; as I use the word.

4. Trial and error requires at least three more things to be effective. The gumption to try, then the trial, then the error, then the accurate determination of what really led to the trial and the error, and finally, changing the things that adversley effected the trial.

5. Once again, I presume you mean the PUA term.

6. peacocking. Let's dicuss this one idea. You explain the problem with it and I'll explain my thoughts on the theory and application.

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I have failed more than most men have tried.

Every woman you pass up is a woman you will never have.