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    Default I've Always Wanted Real Charisma

    One of the things I've always strived to be was charismatic and to understand those with it.

    I've tried to be overtly clever. I tried being a bad azz. Being careless and free of mind. I even tried modalities.
    All of these in some way moved me along in my journey but none of it got me charisma.
    And finally in a stroke of luck, i finally understood what it is to be charismatic, I think.

    First, I will create frame of mind that is unbending. A view of the world so strong even that it sucks those around me in(I'm going to try affirmations to harden my world around me and find causes to battle for).

    Second, I will figure out the ways I want people to act around me while they're in my presence, how they should treat me and if these rules are broken I will deal with it swiftly(I've already written a list and have already put it into affect).

    This could cause me to lose a lot of friends. What ever. It might even flip my world upside down. Good, probably exactly what I need. But I will dive deep into this and see where it leads too.

    This post may sound super narcissistic and probably a little manipulative, but that is what it is to be a pua. If anyone has any pointers on the subject I would love to hear them. There isn't alot of material on the subject and I think its crucial to creating an exciting life that sucks women in.
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    Default Re: I've Always Wanted Real Charisma

    I, too, have wondered what charisma is exactly. I didn't quite figure it out and think I should study up on the subject. If you happen to become more charismatic, tell us your theory, please

    While on your journey for charisma, don't forget to remain yourself. Like I always say, you can handle differently but shouldn't start to feel different on the inside (except for more confident) because it's always better to stay who you are (which also brings in confidence).

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    Default Re: I've Always Wanted Real Charisma

    Hey Rooster,

    What makes you happy?
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    Default Re: I've Always Wanted Real Charisma

    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    I, too, have wondered what charisma is exactly. I didn't quite figure it out and think I should study up on the subject. If you happen to become more charismatic, tell us your theory, please

    While on your journey for charisma, don't forget to remain yourself. Like I always say, you can handle differently but shouldn't start to feel different on the inside (except for more confident) because it's always better to stay who you are (which also brings in confidence).
    For sure man, I am going to become charismatic its just a matter of how long it takes and when I figure it out I'll definitly tell you how I did it. But I would love to have somebody to work towards this goal with me.
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    Hey Rooster,

    What makes you happy?
    Honestly man, pickup. Becoming better. Changing myself and coming out stronger makes me feel better. Nothing in my life has given me a greater high as of yet. So its pickup for me. Its like my world is wrapping around me to fit my view of how it should be.
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    Default Re: I've Always Wanted Real Charisma

    I've been trying to figure the charisma question out myself. I always assumed I just wasn't getting enough practice. If you do figure it out, I'd love to hear your theory. I'd bet money there's a lot of guys who have been looking for the same thing.
    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “WOW...What a Ride!”

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    Default Re: I've Always Wanted Real Charisma

    Quote Originally Posted by 0Rooster0 View Post
    Honestly man, pickup. Becoming better. Changing myself and coming out stronger makes me feel better. Nothing in my life has given me a greater high as of yet. So its pickup for me. Its like my world is wrapping around me to fit my view of how it should be.
    I can feel that. Charisma comes from loving yourself and consequently sharing love with those around you. As you fill up, you also radiate. All it takes is time. You want it, so you'll get it. Have no doubt about that.

    I just wrote something in the Members Lounge that has a similar vibe to this. It may help you or it may not. Check it out and let me know what you think if you get the chance.
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    Default Re: I've Always Wanted Real Charisma

    Charisma: (N.) is the abilty to influence people. A person holding unusual ability for leadership, worthiness or veneration. A divinely given gift.

    Well, as virgil knows I believe I'm a god, so if all charisma needs is divine intervention, then I'm more then qualified.

    First off I did further research and I got this for sure and I got more information on the subject. First off almost everyone knows about frame control. You have a stronger emotion then your target then your emotion will eventually transfer to them.

    Take it one step further and if you have a particular belief about the world and this belief is stronger than any other frame, then your frame will rub off on them. Now if you have a fully realized frame about how people should act around you, how the world is and you believe this, with total conviction, than this is how it will be.

    I already created cards for my frames (each of them in a positive frame, I noticed alot of alphas with strong frame control have super negative views of the world.) and I read them to myself like I would affirmations. I visualize it and make a list for each frame for why I should believe this and why everyone else should. If anyone breaks one of my rules or frames. I will not only dissaprove of it. I will punish it.

    Here are my frames. Tell me if any of them seem off.

    1)People will treat each other with respect.

    2)People will treat me with respect.

    3)Be a respectable human being.

    4)There will be NO negativity.

    These are my current frames and as I find things I don't like I will fix them. These are basically how people will act around me. I also want to add world views. Fight for causes and what not. The same way Ghandi or Martin Luther King did.
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    Default Re: I've Always Wanted Real Charisma

    "No negativity" are two negative words. Use "There will only be positivity". It has a slightly beneficial psychological effect. Reading negative stuff subconsciously creates negative thoughts.

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    Default Re: I've Always Wanted Real Charisma

    How are your body language reading skills? Charisma is the ability to interact and influence those around you. If it doesn't come naturally then the ability to read/sense the people around you will help immensely. Of course just being able to read is only part of the issue, you obviously need to know what to DO with your information.

    That said, I definitely agree that some of the mystery of charisma has to do with your own self view. Confidence helps and people tend to gather around an Alpha because of that. The Alpha attitude gets you the audience to be charismatic, but again, it isn't the whole thing.

    Remember that cutting out folks who don't agree with your rules isn't charismatic, but it does help narrow the folks who will respond positively to who you are. People have a tendency to follow so as long as you are leading a situation you, again, have a good start on developing your charisma.

    I hope that all made sense, I've not had much of an issue with this in years so I'm dredging up memories from when I was too shy to talk to anyone.

    Good luck

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    Default Re: I've Always Wanted Real Charisma

    I'm not sure if having a strong frame is actually charismatic, the guys who are the most charismatic from my experience are the once who have had the toughest road in life. You can't have that magical capturing look in your eyes if you have never really experienced good and bad in life. And its the same with bodylanguage, voice, mannerisms, the way your emotions show, your view on life and so on.


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