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Thread: 4.5hr 1st internet date w HB7

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    Default 4.5hr 1st internet date w HB7

    At 3am, I got home from a 4.5hr 1st internet date w a thin/athletic blonde HB7.

    I arrived 1st & thought:
    beta male: put our name in for a table, wait outside for her
    Alpha Male: sit at the bar, face away from the door

    She arrived 2 minutes late and had to search for me a little. I had
    just texted her: "You're late we're breaking up."

    We had great conversation & I didn't wait for her to complete every
    thought before pulling hooks. I started kino very subtly
    by 1st touching our knees together. When I taught her soul
    gazing, she kept giggling so I took her hand to focus. From
    then on we were holding hands frequently.

    I had a fun idea: internet dates are so awkward. Why don't we just get
    all the awkward relationship moments out first. So I made her role
    play about male impotence, not meeting my parents, peeing while I'm
    shaving, & breaking-up. My wing would have been proud. It was weird /
    funny but she was completely comfortable. As we role played, I
    escalated kino & she responded to every touch or compliance test. Then I
    realized this role play would be perfect for a 1st kiss; they are
    always awkward.

    So I stopped talking for a few seconds and looked at her. I felt like
    I needed a smooth line but nothing felt natural so I decided, fuck it!
    When you ask, "Should I?" You should. I just grabbed the back of her
    neck & kissed her. It lasted forever. Everyone in the bar must have
    noticed. We were slowly French kissing & softly groping for minutes.
    "Was that awkward enough?" I said.
    She recovered, "Maybe for the bartender."

    The rest of the night we found spots to kiss: a couch near the blues
    band, outside behind a movie ticket booth, several dark street-side
    crevasses, my car... She's an amazing kisser & extremely responsive to
    my touch.
    The last thing I asked her: "What did you think when I 1st kissed you?"
    She blushed, "I think I wanted it but didn't know yet."

    I always want to make the move just moments before she's ready. That's exciting for both of us.

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    Default Re: 4.5hr 1st internet date w HB7

    sounds like you should have Fclosed...

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    Default Re: 4.5hr 1st internet date w HB7

    That's awesome man! You KNEW you could get away with the kiss because you sucked her into YOUR reality. So it's your rules that she has to follow. I wouldn't be surprised if you gave her the feeling that NOT kissing you would actually be RUDE. And roleplaying is a great tool if done right. Builds alot of comfort fast and you pulled it off. Again great job.

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    Default Re: 4.5hr 1st internet date w HB7

    Great story, but one thing: I don't think you should have asked her if she liked you kissing her. Instead, always assume that she did, and tell her "I'm sure you've really enjoyed kissing me".

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    Default Re: 4.5hr 1st internet date w HB7

    You know the old saying that you have to spend money to make money. Well it's same thing with value. Share your value with others and you will get more back in return. So asking her if she liked the kiss isn't the WORST thing you could've done since you already had a ton of value. Of course on the other hand it wouldn't work if you were AFC the entire time. Doesn't sound like you were so all good man.

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    Default Re: 4.5hr 1st internet date w HB7

    Hey, thanks guys!
    Two thoughts:

    Quote Originally Posted by pwonager View Post
    sounds like you should have Fclosed...
    This girl is relationship material. I had so much fun building attraction & it was *exactly* the pace I wanted. I'm going to drag-out the process even more, if possible. F-Closing was not on my mind at all. I'm trying a new thing: only sleeping with women I really like. Crazy? Nope. This allows me to effectively friend-zone HBs who are not interesting enough. Then hopefully they become unknowing Pivots. This is a whole new level of friend-girl for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    So asking her if she liked the kiss isn't the WORST thing you could've done since you already had a ton of value. Of course on the other hand it wouldn't work if you were AFC the entire time. Doesn't sound like you were so all good man.
    Clarification: I already knew she liked the lip-lock because she complimented me hours earlier. "What did you think when I 1st kissed you?" Was not delivered as if I was asking for approval. It was delivered very confident & direct, almost as a compliance test. For example: a few times while we were passionately kissing & mildly biting each other, I said very confident & sensually, "Do you like that?" She nodded & I continued, "So say it." Her chest heaved & she melted into my arms. I'm kind of intense & for some women it's too much. But this girl is a moth to the flame

    PS It's kind of weird describing this stuff to other guys. Haha. Hope it helps someone!

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    Default Re: 4.5hr 1st internet date w HB7

    That's funny, because having her roleplay awkward stuff would have been the last idea coming to my mind, the worst possible ever, would have seen it as forcing her to dhv you and stuff... But it worked, so great congrats man

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    Default Re: 4.5hr 1st internet date w HB7

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikalichov View Post
    That's funny, because having her roleplay awkward stuff would have been the last idea coming to my mind, the worst possible ever, would have seen it as forcing her to dhv you and stuff... But it worked, so great congrats man
    I think internet dates suck! I've been brainstorming ways to switch things up. Sometimes contrast is a powerful tool. The HB was not ugly or awakward so I took a chance and tested her improv skills. I would NOT recommend this method for a 1st date with zero IOIs.

    Asking her to break-up with me was the riskiest part. She first refused but I went bold:

    Me: Come on, there must be something you don't like about me already? (massive kino happening)
    HB: I don't know you. Um, maybe because your from the south?
    Me: Good. Now stay in character. Go.

    It was hilarious to watch her squirm. I kissed her directly after this interaction.


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