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    Default How to counter this HB10 c0cktease

    There is this girl in one of my social group that's like the pinnacle of c0ckteases. I actually considered putting her picture on the wikipedia page.

    27yo, HB10, but dress/make-up herself up to HB11/12 and look like 22, hot as hell. And married.

    And basically, she comes when we are hanging out, hit on every guy present, flirts like crazy, and when her ioi-meter is full, goes back home.

    Fortunately for me, I saw through her game at first sight and paid her no attention. Which means that after a while I became her "main target". She went up to me, gave me some IOIs, and I instinctively used my best game on her.

    Problem is: that's exactly what she wanted, I got gamed. I realized it, but didn't know what to do differently. I used her as social proof to secure the number of a girl I was chatting before she arrived, but my pua pride was injured nonetheless. Game ON.

    SO I'm calling to you my brothers How do you game a girl like that?

    - being AFC: nope
    - using my normal pua game: didn't work, she just absorbs it, I need bigger guns
    - ignoring her: well it worked, but I can't just keep on ignoring, when she comes, open me, and IOI the sh!t out of me I have to react

    I'm considering using HUGE negs, I used one and it kinda grabbed her attention: she was bragging about how young she looked (i didn't know her age), and I was "naaah, you don't look 20, at least 25 - you're not over 30, aren't you? :O I mean, from behind you look 20, sure, but.."

    I messed it afterwards (spent too much time on it), but is that the solution? What other advice do you guys have?

    I don't really care about the marriage stuff, don't intend to bf-destroy anything, and she's not particularly interesting, I just want her to want to frak the hell out of me. She has the toughest game I've seen since I've started that stuff, so she's just a huge personal challenge

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    Default Re: How to counter this HB10 c0cktease

    Your neg was great. Normally I just advocate teasing, but someone this needy you need to directly break down
    Lay it on her, just don't pass the point where you act like an A hole

    I remember one time years ago I was out playing pool with my buddy and 2 cute girls, before I really had any solid game
    This girl wouldn't shut up trying to tell me how I was going to mess up the shot, etc, kinda high and mighty
    I turned to her and said hey sweetheart I see you really love to hear yourself talk but you need to shut the hell up and let me take my shot ok princess?
    She shut up, walked over to me and said come here, pulled my face in and made out with me
    One of the funniest things I ever saw
    Point is - you take em off their pedestal and they need validation

    To help you - lets get inside her head quick -
    She is deeply insecure, she dresses up and flirts to get attention and validation, she gets the attention she wants and affirms that she is cool / hot / etc. you Take Away that attention, and they want it back hardcore. You don't give it to them or you neg them - they wonder why you aren't all over them, part of them starts to wonder what's wrong with them, and they want your attention and validation to re-affirm their position. They see their value directly related to the attention they get

    Let me know if I can help more, good luck tho, these girls are actually kind of fun challenges
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    Default Re: How to counter this HB10 c0cktease

    Oh one piece I wanted to explain - so after the neg, she's going to work to get the attention back. Tease her with it, Cat String Theory. Turn the heat down but don't supplicate, you want to be more in the - yea I guess it's ok then - Mindset, but keep them working for your attention don't just give it away because she asks for it
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    Default Re: How to counter this HB10 c0cktease

    One of the problem I was struck with is that with her game, virtually any male in the room is competing for her attention. So if I don't give her the valdiation she needs, she just has to go ang around any of them and get as much as she needs.

    I guess I have to make my validation "taste better", be worth more, so that she actively seeks it

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    Default Re: How to counter this HB10 c0cktease

    Yes exactly! Make it taste better

    You should be out flirting with others, if she tries to butt in act like she was interrupting, like excuse me do I know you?
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    Default Re: How to counter this HB10 c0cktease

    It sounds like you're dealing with a well experienced "Playette".

    Sometimes when a girl is really tough to crack, (like this one) your strongest "weapon" so to speak, is to call her out directly.

    Just tell her straight up that she's a major playette! You could even "compliment" her game, but then mention that she still hasn't learned everything...

    After that, start quizzing her and ask about some of her most memorable & favorite moments she's had while gaming guys.... (It gives her a chance to talk about herself, which builds more rapport & comfort, & starts to Disarm her a bit.)

    She has the same emotional & attraction switches as any other female, & sometimes you can get a girl to flip those switches herself, without her even realizing it.

    It's not a guarantee; but if nothing else is working, then whatcha got to lose?


    Need one on one private coaching? PM me for details.

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    Default Re: How to counter this HB10 c0cktease

    Yeah, that's when the Game tastes its sweetest actually, when you are facing a challenge, but are not really interested and have nothing to lose

    One of the biggest difficulties I have is that since she is "gaming" everyone, she is basically flashing IOIs all over the place (to get ioi and validation from guys in return). So I have no idea how to recognize genuine IOIs from fake IOIs when I'm interacting with her :/


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