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    Default pua's who seem to break some rules but still have success

    I was watching a video of sasha doing some extremely direct day game last night. And i was astonished at how direct he was with women, just telling them that they were beautiful and that he was practically in love with them at first sight, how much he wants them, etc. And I just couldnt understand how it worked. I mean being so extremely confrontational and direct, without doing much if any negging or Push Pull...I did see one video where most all of h is sets were not successful, but then once in a while he would have one that would just be astonishing, and I couldnt make sense of it. It seemed to go against the fundamental principles and logic I had learned about seduction. Is it just the fact that he has an accent and is from another culture so different social protocols apply? Or what?

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    Default Re: pua's who seem to break some rules but still have success

    No, its the type of game hes playing. Direct is a high risk high reward part of the game, the problem with this style is that u get rejected alot more. It is a more expediant form thoa. Where as in indirect u take a lot of time with a girl. In direct u almost test to see if ur boldness will create instant attraction then ur able to skip straight into rapport. Its just skipping a couple steps, when u get in this thing called the game for a while ull start to notice patterns
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    Yea I have definately noticed a pattern over the past couples years. While doing indirect you are being more sneaky, there is a risk of going into the friend zone if your not gaming hard enough or right, or gaming a girl who is actually not available emotionally or logistically, and will entertain your conversation and give you her phone number not knowing that you are looking for a date and not wanting one, etc etc, but there is less rejection because the woman will always assume you can just be friends or acquaintances or whatever, right? While with Direct Game youll get rejected more because you have that all or nothing approach of I am here to get romantic with you, so anyone who doesnt like that approach or isnt open to that style will immediately reject you, it seems like there is no risk of getting put into the friend zone or wasting your time with women who are not available to date you. Right?

    I can definately tell you that my frame is not strong enough to go direct. I would love to learn more about direct game though so that I can use those tactics and start to be more and more direct as time goes on. Is there anyone who can perhaps ease me into it with some of the more basic direct techniques?

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    Default Re: pua's who seem to break some rules but still have success

    I would not recommend direct, working some game in an indirect fashion is usually more fun.

    Plus if you are getting friend zoned a lot using indirect I do not think you are ready to advance to direct just yet.

    Also direct usually works a lot better if are the kind of guy that girls fall for on first sight.. aka pretty boys.

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    Default Re: pua's who seem to break some rules but still have success

    lol I am a hottie but my frame sucks. I still have some lingering Approach Anxiety. I definately cant pull off direct. I am not dealing so much with friend zone as with women being flaky, or in some way unavailable.

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    Default Re: pua's who seem to break some rules but still have success

    You can get ways with stuff as long as you project the alpha male characteristics of 'tribal leader'! So don't get trap into..I shouldn't do this...just flow with your alpha male's energy!

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    Default Re: pua's who seem to break some rules but still have success

    Yea it definately is our thoughts that cause the Approach Anxiety (and excuses why we shouldnt approach). The times I just do something without thinking about it are the times I succeed and actually get to do what I want. Overcoming approach anxiety and building your frame is a long journey of personal development t hough. Right now I am a little more than halfway to where I want to be. So I think the hardest part is over, but I still have a lot of work building my personality to do.

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    Default Re: pua's who seem to break some rules but still have success

    Quote Originally Posted by SexualSorcerer333 View Post
    lol I am a hottie but my frame sucks. I still have some lingering Approach Anxiety. I definately cant pull off direct. I am not dealing so much with friend zone as with women being flaky, or in some way unavailable.
    sign up for the gym, 45 minutes a day, and your frame will get better quick.

    If you are very skinny make sure to do a large dose or up-rights row, shoulder press and bench press. It will give you a broader chest.

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    Default Re: pua's who seem to break some rules but still have success

    I am an ex bodybuilder, believe me I have no issues with my body. I have pierced niples and a ton of super flashy clothing for peacocking. That is definately not that lol.

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    Default Re: pua's who seem to break some rules but still have success

    you know today I have been doing some serious studying though and I do see how there are many rules these direct people like sasha use. I guess it is just a set of trade offs and its confusing to me at this point because that kind of direct role playing is incomprehensible to me with my frame and the knowledge that I have now.


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