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    Default How harsh should a neg be?

    What's up guys!

    Kinda drunk so please bear with me.

    Tonight was the first night of my college career where I finally & successfully worked my game I had built up over the summer. I was approaching with ease, gaming with ease, and even k-closed two girls who I had been into since I was a freshman (I'm a senior now).

    Anyways, despite my awesome night there was one girl in particular who has been on my mind for the past hour (sounds short, but it feels like a lifetime)...

    Background: Surprisingly I've always been crushing on this girls roommate but tonight I was all about her...lets call her "GIRL"

    I was at a 21st bday for and good friend of mine and GIRL was the first person I saw when I walked in the door...immediatley my "game" brain kicked in and I negged her by saying, "you look so dead, did you have a rough night last night??".....After saying that she was kinda shocked/upset and said how rude that was...I was able to play around w/ her and made it seem like not too big a deal....luckily

    ANYWAYS, throughout the night I feel like I had plenty of opportunities to build attraction w/ her but I kept thinking to myself..."what if my neg really upset her" OR "what if she hates me"....I FEEL LIKE SUCH A FARKING AFC

    I guess my question is...what do you do when a neg affects the girl so much that they actually feel hurt by it?

    BTW, at the end of the night, I ended up isolating the girl and making her a napkin flower (which she somewhat loved) but I'm wondering if I negged her too hard from the get go...let me be the first to say that she is an HB7 at best and I'm one of few guys she feels comfortable around...I just feel like I was too harsh...perhaps I'm just so accustomed to my "nice" nature that I feel bad putting any girl down w/ a neg....ANY advice?

    Thanks guys!!!
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    Default Re: How harsh should a neg be?

    what do you do when a neg affects the girl so much that they actually feel hurt by it?

    I never neg about anything personal they cannot change i.e face, fat, breast size etc.

    so if i do not neg about anything that would ACTUALLY hurt their feelings, if they "pretend" to be upset over something I negg about, they are faking it. So i just do not care.

    Since she was an HB7 her confidence is not too high to begin with, so that is maybe why she took that the wrong way, or became self conscious about her appearance.

    a rule to negging i find is that the HB10's you can give it to, but as you fall your negging has to become more light hearted.

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    Default Re: How harsh should a neg be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Achilies View Post
    what do you do when a neg affects the girl so much that they actually feel hurt by it?

    I never neg about anything personal they cannot change i.e face, fat, breast size etc.

    so if i do not neg about anything that would ACTUALLY hurt their feelings, if they "pretend" to be upset over something I negg about, they are faking it. So i just do not care.

    Since she was an HB7 her confidence is not too high to begin with, so that is maybe why she took that the wrong way, or became self conscious about her appearance.

    a rule to negging i find is that the HB10's you can give it to, but as you fall your negging has to become more light hearted.
    Makes sense, I honestly think that I'm too much of an "AFC Nice Guy" that I feel bad negging....but I'm adapting....when I see an HB10...I have no problem going "all-out"...it's just the 7's and 8's that I seem to get "emotional' about LOL
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    Default Re: How harsh should a neg be?

    Try change your attitude from 'negging' to 'joking'. Negging is exactly what it means - negative. Joking is funny but sometimes a little embarrassing. Observe women carefully. If a women looks dead - be the guy who puts life back into her with something positive or fun or only tease mildly (because she's in a deflated position already). If a girl is too high or teasing you (too self confident or arrogant herself) retaliate with an equal tease. The trick is not to be harsh but CLEVER. Women don't like a prick, they like a smart man who creates something engaging. Sure they like bad boys but they like bad boys with a good heart. They like the guy who rides up on a motorbike with a leather jacket, but then pulls out a rose. If you know what I mean.

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    Default Re: How harsh should a neg be?

    I did a little informal study exploring why douchebags (who are just cocky with almost zero rapport) get HB9/10. Here's what I found.

    For 6 - 10 it's about balancing between cockiness (Negging/non-reactiveness/destroying thier sh1t tests/IOD's) with rapport (CB/Qualifying/Loweing b1tch shields/IOI's).

    HB6 needs:
    20% Cocky / 80% rapport
    (easily put off by too much cocky)

    HB7 needs:
    40% Cocky / 60% rapport

    HB8 needs:
    60% Cocky / 40% rapport
    (easily bored if rapport exceeds cockiness)

    HB9 needs:
    80% Cocky / 20% rapport
    (hit them with a neg or three right off the bat)

    HB10 needs:
    99% Cocky / 1% rapport
    (That 99% Cocky is the bad boy, and the 1% rapport is the "I can change him!")

    Where % refers to the % of content which falls into the category of either Cocky or rapport... but I'm guessing not a lot of guys are quite as "math" as I am. Lol
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