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    Default Re: Reducing Buyers Remorse - "S4"

    Great post. I just had an experience with this that T-Mal commented on, so I looked up the definition of BR and found this to be really informative. It definitely sucks, and most of all because if I didn't leave her better than when I found her, then I feel like shit for it.

    But other than that, what does NC stand for, and when you were talking about "MM" and "S3" and stuff like that, is Mystery Method the only real chronological breakdown of game from beginning to end? I feel like I'd really benefit from seeing the whole picture from beginning to end in written form so I can get a full idea of what the interaction should look like until you "Win the Game" as you put it. Any suggestions?

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    Default Re: Reducing Buyers Remorse - "S4"

    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    the whole picture from beginning to end in written form so I can get a full idea of what the interaction should look like until you "Win the Game" as you put it. Any suggestions?
    Yup

    (P.s. I'm totally gonna pick up where MM leaves off ...at actually having a relationship with a human - P.p.s. I've gotten sassier)
    (P.p.p.s. NC means "No Contact" - as in when one person gets or gives no reply)

    MM (Mystery Method)

    Attraction

    A1 - Opening - this stage begins when you see a stranger. It ends when they respond to your attempt to engage them (whether verbally or physically).

    A2 - hook - this stage begins when they are engaged but still just being polite. Use subtle dhv to budget their politeness into curiosity into interest. This stage ends when they are no longer waiting for you to leave but hoping you stay.

    A3 - Attraction Building - As they hope you stay, keep doing what you're doing and do more stuff to make them want you to stay more. Cat string, FTC, DHV, DSQ, Tease, whatever you like. Just have fun with it. This stage ends just BEFORE things start to feel stagnant - move the group or individual before that.

    Comfort

    C1 - "Isolation" - this stage begins when you move from where you met to where you're going to talk for a little while. Kino should be light and conversation should be playful. This stage ends when kino and conversation escalate, and/or when you move from one location to another.

    C2 - "Escalation" - this stage begins when kino escalates and conversation becomes deep, and/or you move to new location after new location: bar to coffee, to food, to walk, to whatever.

    C3 - "...f**k... I don't remember what this is called... - Pre-seduction?" - this is when you've arrived at the place where you're going to (as the kids say these days) "get freaky" and you're just hanging out in the living room or wherever.

    Seduction

    S1 - "Bedroom" - this begins when you leave the living room for the bedroom.

    S2 - "Foreplay" - do I need to explain the parameters of this one?

    S3 - "Sex" - how about this? Make sense?


    BMM (Beyond Mystery Method) - I think there was literally less than a page in MM about this part.

    Relationship

    "S4" / "R1" - Adjustment? - so, the morning after, it's no longer a "will they/won't they" fun tension of energy, it's a "they did" equilibrium of energy. The tone of which will either be regretful or satisfied.

    R2 - "Habit" - this begins when there's a second romantic... incident. There is probably a dozen volumes that could be written about how attraction and comfort have to be balanced in this stage. Not written by me though, I'm... doing other stuff... This stage is where the relationship is continuing to grow but no one has yet spoken how they see it or what they want of it. This stage can last minutes or months. it ends when you have the "Define The Relationship" conversation.

    R3 - "DTR" - It's not so much a negotiation as it is two people presenting their wants and needs to each other and asking if the other is willing and able to fulfill those wants and needs - within the normal ammount of grey area that is intrinsic to non-black-and-white thought. Frame and honesty are both and each more crucial here than at any other stage (and that is saying something). This stage ends at the end of the DTR conversation. One of three things happens: you split, you move forward, or you circle the drain in rotations between R2 and R3.

    Commitment / Growth (all the other letters were taken)

    T1 - "Confrontation" - This stage begins when you've defined the relationship, and now that you've come to an understanding of the nature and operation of the relationship all is well right? Wrong! People grow, change, fall short of expectations and decide they want different. The parameters of the relationship today will not necessarily fulfill the needs of both parties tomorrow (metaphorically speaking) whenever there's change there will be a conflict. In reaction to a conflict, some people will bail, others will address it. This stage ends at the conflict and the relationship moves forward if the conflict is addressed and the change (whatever that change may be) is accounted for.

    T2 - "Renegotiation" - If the conflict is to be addressed, then the relationship must be renegotiated. This is a very complicated combination of the DTF with a lot of attraction, comfort and seduction related variables. Literally volumes upon volumes have been and will be forever written on this stage and the next stage. This stage ends when

    T3 - "Reconciliation" - Upon completion of the renegotiation of the relationship, everyone settles back into their existence within new parameters.


    Game Won

    If you successfully navigate from A1 - T3 then, congratulations you've found someone that who you want (active and demonstrated verb) to be with and who wants (active and demonstrated verb) to be with you - aka you've WON the Game. Remember that "Winning" is a process, not an end result. A winner does not rest on his (or her) laurels (google it if the colloquialism escapes you) instead he (or she) wins and is a winner by winning on a daily basis. Ergo (<fancy way of saying "thus" which is a fancy way of saying "therefore" which is a fancy way of saying "so") for best and long term results of "Winning the GAME" repeat the sequence forward from stage R1 upon completion of T3.
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    Default Re: Reducing Buyers Remorse - "S4"

    Good to see you posting again bro.

    And what a great breakdown you wrote up. I think anyone who is confused won't be any longer thanks to the write up.
    Between men and women there is no friendship possible. There is passion, enmity, worship, love, but no friendship.
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    Default Re: Reducing Buyers Remorse - "S4"

    BR is unlikely but, for the sake of all men who she will encounter her in the furuter, stay in contact with her and don't let her regret being open to men.
    @Autismus: Appreciate this attitude mate (y)

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    Default Re: Reducing Buyers Remorse - "S4"

    Ya this is important stuff. Good write up.

    In fact, this is a pretty important part and it doesn't get talked about enough usually.
    Get something positive out of something negative.


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