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    Default how to overcome last minute resistance??

    Just got from a dinner with a girl. She was cooking for me at her place. It was nice, because we were flirting a bit and while cooking we were kissing and making out.
    Then dinner was ready, so cooling a bit down just eating and talking.
    After the dinner she suggested to watch a movie on her couch.

    And I wanted to escalate a bit while watching the movie, but did it too fast, I could feel that. So I think I ruined it at that point arghgh.

    I asked whatsup, and she said we shouldnt kiss, be friends etc etc etc.
    She said, you only want to kiss, not watch the movie.
    So i said a thing like, i really like you, not only for kissing and all that.
    After that we kissed again few minutes later.

    She wanted to go to sleep and I was pushing a bit for a goodbye kiss. So dammit I acted needy, hit myself on the head for that.

    She's a girl I met several times and have chemistry with, we're always kissing and stuff. But really difficult to sleep with.

    Her anti slut defense thingie is really high up and says things like, let's be friends and all that. And she's not really a type to do one night stand things. She wants to be sure someone really likes her, and she throws a high barrier at me.
    And later on we kiss again. So it messes my mind up a bit how to act on that, because it happened several times.

    Is it good to talk about how I like her, and not just for physical??
    Would it up the attraction, or kill it?

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    Default Re: how to overcome last minute resistance??

    This sounds like a Sh1t Test... or a phony story.

    A girl who invites a guy to her place so she can cook dinner, AND makes out with him in the process, isn't likely to put up the shield during that same interaction.

    (However; I admit... I can only speak from my own personal experience.)

    If you're not just telling a story here & you're serious; I'd honestly recommend telling her, "Yeah, you're right. We should just be friends."

    That's not something a guy would normally say to a girl, and it will get her attention.

    That's all I got for ya at this point.


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    Default Re: how to overcome last minute resistance??

    Do you know how to turn a girl on?
    Is it LMR/ASD or where you just too quick or needy?
    Did you show respect?
    Did you reassure her?
    Did you use push and pull?

    My way of avoiding ASD is to maximise turning her on with caressing the inner theigh, her hips, spine, neck,etc, breathing down her back (making her shiver). need to be able to turn a women on with minimal movement of clothing. you master that and the clothes will come off quite quickly.

    If she says " lets just be friends" just pause for abit, and say something like " you know what, you're right, we shouldn't complicate things, we'll just stick to spooning" then caress her subtly and do the breathing down spine technique, its a physical push n pull technique and she wont be able to resist it.

    I KNOW THIS WORKS. I've used it.


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    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: how to overcome last minute resistance??

    i just saw tmoletans comment, literally the same advice lol
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: how to overcome last minute resistance??

    Quote Originally Posted by tmalonetn View Post
    If you're not just telling a story here & you're serious; I'd honestly recommend telling her, "Yeah, you're right. We should just be friends."
    Yeah it's serious, the whole night was going natural and smooth as butter. At the point of watching a movie it felt natural to escalate because I felt she wanted it too.
    But I problably wanted it too fast arghgh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone1991 View Post
    Do you know how to turn a girl on?
    Is it LMR/ASD or where you just too quick or needy?
    Did you show respect?
    Did you reassure her?
    Did you use push and pull?

    My way of avoiding ASD is to maximise turning her on with caressing the inner theigh, her hips, spine, neck,etc, breathing down her back (making her shiver). need to be able to turn a women on with minimal movement of clothing. you master that and the clothes will come off quite quickly.

    If she says " lets just be friends" just pause for abit, and say something like " you know what, you're right, we shouldn't complicate things, we'll just stick to spooning" then caress her subtly and do the breathing down spine technique, its a physical push n pull technique and she wont be able to resist it.

    I KNOW THIS WORKS. I've used it.


    push and pull
    Before the movie I did a lot of push n pull. It all went naturally and she was the one to suggest to watch a movie on the couch.

    Problably I was thinking it's going really easy now and stopped the push n pull.

    So I didn't pull back and she went 180 degrees on me.

    I allready said stuff like 'I like you very much' and stuff, instead of 'Yeah let's stay friends.'

    Ofcourse I knew it would'nt work to say I really like her when she got cold, but I wouldn't agree with her in the moment with the let's stay friends thingy and acted needy, arghgh.

    So what's a good thing to recover from this ??

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    Default Re: how to overcome last minute resistance??

    It's better to say you like her than to agree you want to be friends too, unless you say 'sure ok let's be friends, I'll call you when I'm going out for beers or playing Xbox ok?' and walk out the door haha. I wouldn't stress too much and next time just keep kissing her. If she really rejects again (especially if she has gone to some effort on the night) you could either walk away and ignore her or call her out on it 'then why did you cook for me? Why did we sit together intimately on the couch together? Maybe you need a puppy? I'm kissing you, not asking your hand in marriage! Now come here...'. If she still resists after that I have no idea why you're investing time with such an ice queen. Most of the times I've heard 'just want to be friends' they didn't really mean it and within a few dates they were ready for action.

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    Default Re: how to overcome last minute resistance??

    Quote Originally Posted by whitedragon View Post
    I'm kissing you, not asking your hand in marriage! Now come here...'. If she still resists after that I have no idea why you're investing time with such an ice queen. Most of the times I've heard 'just want to be friends' they didn't really mean it and within a few dates they were ready for action.
    hmmm yeah I think she's taking it all very heavy at some point, while I'm more lighthearted.
    So problably I think she needs a huge amount of comfort, I could feel she was getting more tense, just on the couch lying next to eachother.

    Problaby both the 'let's stay friends' thingy or saying, 'we're not marrying just kissing a bit' will lift some heavy weight.

    Although I prefer the we're not marrying style and just have fun.

    So would you think it's wise to date a few times and not let it escalate too much into sexual Tension (yet) ???

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    Default Re: how to overcome last minute resistance??

    definetly a sh1t test. This happened to me about two weeeks ago. we were watching a movie and i had her down to her panties and bra.

    HB7: omg i dont do stuff like this. were not even watching the movie.
    Me: liar
    HB: omg your so bad
    ME: (pulled up my drawers) i will go sit on my bad boy couch then.
    Hb: why are you going over there?
    ME: because your the one who cant handle herself

    needles to say i recieved a blow j ten minutes later

    she ended up calling me baby later that night which really through up the psycho flag

    90% of the time girls say they dont do something is bs. its there defense mechanism

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    Default Re: how to overcome last minute resistance??

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanktop View Post
    definetly a sh1t test. This happened to me about two weeeks ago. we were watching a movie and i had her down to her panties and bra.

    HB7: omg i dont do stuff like this. were not even watching the movie.
    Me: liar
    HB: omg your so bad
    ME: (pulled up my drawers) i will go sit on my bad boy couch then.
    Hb: why are you going over there?
    ME: because your the one who cant handle herself

    needles to say i recieved a blow j ten minutes later

    she ended up calling me baby later that night which really through up the psycho flag

    90% of the time girls say they dont do something is bs. its there defense mechanism
    Yeah I think you're right. And think you handled it right in this situation by keeping some distance at that point.

    Ofcourse she wants it too or she would not suggest sitting at the couch.
    Also she knows I want it too.
    Maybe the difference is she did it a bit subtle and now I think I made it too obvious at the point when watching the movie on the couch.

    Ok now I think, the next time I meet her, there's always chemistry and she problably has some defense up.

    How would you handle that??

    Like sending some light e-mails or just ignoring her a bit when meeting her?


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