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    TheRealDeal87 is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Help me Smash through this LMR!

    What's up crew?

    HB 9 I've been onto for a bit. We did a solo night one on one at my place. Last time this happened, she wasn't comfortable even with my arm around her. This girl has been with just three men in her life, so she's not as easy as the others. She has openly admitted she wants to fk me multiple times but is so strong about putting up resistance and she knows it. She even brags about her self control lol. This time was different. We had a moment in my driveway, I put my arms around her waist, and kissed/bit her on the neck which she really liked. She told me I was crazy, but we shouldn't be doing it, etc.

    We shot some pool at my place, had a couple of drinks, and then I was telling her about my former endeavor with a career in massage therapy. She was talking about how her back was always in knots from sports so, I told her to lie down and I'd give her a massage--but that I would get one first, nothing in this world is free

    I got my massage, she got hers, and she openly admitted she got really turned on. From there, we sat back down on my couch. I had my arm around her and she was comfortable with me, but would let me kiss close, so I breathed/bit on her neck a bit and she started the 'you're so bad' bit, but still put up LMR. So, I'd pulled enough, so this time I pushed and told her 'we're probably moving too fast, maybe it's a good idea that we call it a night' so that's what we did and I walked her out like a gentleman to her car, and sent her on her way. We're meeting again for a few hours on the weekend at my job (i'm a bartender) and hanging out there for a few hours after.

    I really want to knock out this kiss close and eventually f close. Should I push her, and put Saturday off?

    Today was her idea to be with me on her day off, and she still wants to stick with Saturday and see me again for a bit.

    Decisions decisions.

    What to do what to do.

    Any and all input is appreciated! Since she left I've gone cold on her and I'll do so til saturday so I won't seem like an AFC.

    Let me know what you all think

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    Default Re: Help me Smash through this LMR!

    Firstly try avoid 'talking' about it and just be more persistent and aggressive in continuing to foreplay her. Secondly you could try a disqualifier - like if you are on a date, cut it short and head home alone saying you have something else to do. Essentially trying to break up your usual beat. Thirdly you could try a Freeze Out but you want to give the impression your not wasting time with an 'immature' cock tease rather than you have given up. Also try find out how much she likes you 'you like me? Prove it' (otherwise there is the door). Invite her to sleep over at your place. She eill likely say 'nothing will happen' but she will be forced to be intimate in bed with you and just keep ignoring whst she says, get her horny as hell and take her 'unless she really says NO! And is not consenting. She is controlling all the shots ATM so I would regain some control and get her chasing you or by being far mire aggressive. Right now she has no fear of loosing you.

    This is also why it's good to have a plan B or a few girls. Let's say girl A doesn't want to put out just yet. Fine you go and sleep with girl B. Your satisfied sexually and when you see girl A the next day you are not as desperate. You don't care so much. Your not cheating either because girl A has not committed herself yet Patience becomes easier because you have fun elsewhere to fill in the gaps. She's not making any excuses for being a prude so don't make any for being the dude.

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    TheRealDeal87 is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Re: Help me Smash through this LMR!

    Quote Originally Posted by whitedragon View Post
    Firstly try avoid 'talking' about it and just be more persistent and aggressive in continuing to foreplay her. Secondly you could try a disqualifier - like if you are on a date, cut it short and head home alone saying you have something else to do. Essentially trying to break up your usual beat. Thirdly you could try a Freeze Out but you want to give the impression your not wasting time with an 'immature' cock tease rather than you have given up. Also try find out how much she likes you 'you like me? Prove it' (otherwise there is the door). Invite her to sleep over at your place. She eill likely say 'nothing will happen' but she will be forced to be intimate in bed with you and just keep ignoring whst she says, get her horny as hell and take her 'unless she really says NO! And is not consenting. She is controlling all the shots ATM so I would regain some control and get her chasing you or by being far mire aggressive. Right now she has no fear of loosing you.

    This is also why it's good to have a plan B or a few girls. Let's say girl A doesn't want to put out just yet. Fine you go and sleep with girl B. Your satisfied sexually and when you see girl A the next day you are not as desperate. You don't care so much. Your not cheating either because girl A has not committed herself yet Patience becomes easier because you have fun elsewhere to fill in the gaps. She's not making any excuses for being a prude so don't make any for being the dude.
    I always enjoy your posts and was hoping you would chime in on this!

    "Invite her to sleep over at your place. She will likely say 'nothing will happen' but she will be forced to be intimate in bed with you and just keep ignoring whst she says, get her horny as hell and take her"

    I flipped it on her and told her nothing would happen, that I was sleeping on the couch, etc, but she is an RN and got called into work so that night didn't follow through. Soon though.

    "She is controlling all the shots ATM so I would regain some control and get her chasing you or by being far mire aggressive. Right now she has no fear of loosing you."

    I'm going to freeze her out and act like I forgot about Saturday unless she brings it up again. After a week or two I should have her eating out of the palm of my hand.

    I've got girl A, girl B, and girl C.

    Girl A is this girl. Potential LTR material I'm interested in.
    Girl B is my best friend / fuck buddy that my EXPERIMENT thread is about.
    Girl C I am seeing Saturday, F closed her and met her last weekend.

    Got the ABC's, just want to make sure I remember how to say / use them correctly LOL.

    Thanks for the input, I'll freeze her out starting tonight. In 1-2 weeks she'll be seeking me out.

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    Default Re: Help me Smash through this LMR!

    I know many guys struggle with Last Minute Resistance. Well, your ole buddy Kino is here to help you. Guys our job is to initiate intimacy a woman wants to be seduced and be led into in a comfortable sexual situation. As guys especially when the moment is hot we just want to jump in, well that often leads to LMR. Here are some simple strategies to help nip that in the bud.

    Number one, at the top of my list when a woman is giving me ioi’s and we have moved into sexual conversation I put them in the role of the initiator by making her jump through little hoops. Instead of saying, “we should hang out” say something like “It would be way to crazy if we hung out” She will reply with something like “Oh, you think so, well it sounds like we should definitely hang out then.” The goal is early on in the process let her close the little gaps leading up to seduction.

    Another effective technique at this point is to tease but make it obvious that you are struggling to control yourself. If she is hot for you, pull her close, get her close and give her the I want to fark your brains out like and make her think you are going to kiss her…then pull it back (your head not your body, don’t lose the proximity), “No, no, you are trouble.” They will almost always go ahead and kiss you, lean in, or pull you back if she does this, kiss her. She made the push on you, she will not resist.

    Ok so let’s fast forward, you are alone and it’s about to go down…or is it? The pull away technique works wonders, the idea is to beat her to the punch. Say no, but don’t lose the proximity, let her pull you back in and give you encouragement because she has just admitted to herself that she wants you. Just keep going…


    Ok, so what if she beats you to the punch? Stop, agree, pause, back up a step. Agree, don’t lose proximity if possible, go back to kissing, and continue, the next time she likely won’t stop you, just rev that engine a little more.

    Also, if she really shuts you down don't act like a little biatch. Don't act needy. Just drop it like nothing happened.

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    Default Re: Help me Smash through this LMR!

    Quote Originally Posted by Suave Kino View Post
    I know many guys struggle with Last Minute Resistance. Well, your ole buddy Kino is here to help you. Guys our job is to initiate intimacy a woman wants to be seduced and be led into in a comfortable sexual situation. As guys especially when the moment is hot we just want to jump in, well that often leads to LMR. Here are some simple strategies to help nip that in the bud.

    Number one, at the top of my list when a woman is giving me ioi’s and we have moved into sexual conversation I put them in the role of the initiator by making her jump through little hoops. Instead of saying, “we should hang out” say something like “It would be way to crazy if we hung out” She will reply with something like “Oh, you think so, well it sounds like we should definitely hang out then.” The goal is early on in the process let her close the little gaps leading up to seduction.

    Another effective technique at this point is to tease but make it obvious that you are struggling to control yourself. If she is hot for you, pull her close, get her close and give her the I want to fark your brains out like and make her think you are going to kiss her…then pull it back (your head not your body, don’t lose the proximity), “No, no, you are trouble.” They will almost always go ahead and kiss you, lean in, or pull you back if she does this, kiss her. She made the push on you, she will not resist.

    Ok so let’s fast forward, you are alone and it’s about to go down…or is it? The pull away technique works wonders, the idea is to beat her to the punch. Say no, but don’t lose the proximity, let her pull you back in and give you encouragement because she has just admitted to herself that she wants you. Just keep going…

    Ok, so what if she beats you to the punch? Stop, agree, pause, back up a step. Agree, don’t lose proximity if possible, go back to kissing, and continue, the next time she likely won’t stop you, just rev that engine a little more.

    Also, if she really shuts you down don't act like a little biatch. Don't act needy. Just drop it like nothing happened.
    Thanks for the info boss, much appreciated. She contacted me back this morning.

    Her: "You're in trouble for teasing me...this is getting so hard."

    Me: you're such a baby, I barely did a thing!

    Her: if you're up for anything after i get off work tonight, i feel like going and getting into something vs just going home.. since i am off saturday

    Me: so many people want me to come out on Friday! lol. If didn't work at 10AM I would be out owning the night like I always do, but I'll be staying in tonight. The last thing I want to do is serve drinks hungover.

    Her: I'm just really in the mood to do something tonight. Not even necessarily go "out to clubs"

    Me: haha I'm doing something tonight but I'm not sure if it's your thing!

    Her: What's that?

    Me: I'm big into astronomy, have been since I was a kid. Always wanted to study the stars, planets, etc, but I could never hack the freaking math haha. Tonight's the harvest moon, so the sky is going to be really lit up when it gets dark I'm going to one of my spots tonight to just relax, chill, and check it out. This is the best the sky will look in the midwest.

    Her: i love astronomy... love the stars... that sounds like an amazing night.

    Me: I thought I was the only one who appreciated them. you should join me then when you're off

    Her: i get off at 11 or 12 depending.. and are you sure you can handle seeing my crazy ass that much in a row

    Me: there's nothing I can't handle ha. Bring an overnight bag just in case you don't want to drive home, and you can crash in my bed, I can take my bad boy couch for teasing you last night.

    Her: K

    Think I got this. There is no reason I can't at least K close tonight


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