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    TheRealDeal87 is offline PUA in Training
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    Default **UPDATE** Help me Smash through LMR Hell Part II HB9

    **THIS IS A LONG READ, BUT LOTS OF GOOD INFO/EXPERIENCE HERE!**

    this is continued from my previous thread:


    http://www.puaforums.com/how-seduce-...html#post60666

    HB 9 came out to my place last night, things went well...not as far as I'd have liked though, but I like that she's not easy. It's progress. We went out to check out the stars, came back to my place, no wine/alcohol involved, threw a movie on, sat on my couch and I was doing heavy Kino the entire night. Touching her arm, the hollow in her back, holding/squeezing her hand during conversations, tugging her hair now and then. Women that put up strong LMR need HEAVY kino/comfort before turning things sexual especially if they are not easy by any means.

    I already had a blanket downstairs for us which I thought was a good move. Something about being under the same blanket creates fucking comfort for whatever reason. Weird. 20 minutes into the movie her body language adjusted with her legs directed towards me which is the most I have gotten out of her since we met.

    The usual banter. I teased her, she teased back, I pulled her close to me. She was there, boom. Closest progress I've had with this one.

    I slowed down the speech, and the tone, went for a kiss close and she turned away so I kissed her on the cheek instead, bit her on her neck, and ear . Neck/Ears are one of her weaknesses as I figured out. I climbed over her, kissed her cheek, neck, collar bone, etc, and she was feeling on my body, but then the LMR kicked in. "We should stop..you're crazy you know that?" To which I said "you're right, we're very comfortable together, but maybe we shouldn't move this fast."

    After all of this though, she would NOT make out with me/kiss me on the lips. I think it's an emotional thing for women when it comes to kissing. We got off the couch, went into my den and turned on some music to which I had her close to me again. The kissing started again on the neck, and THIS time she responded back by kissing/biting my neck a couple of times. From there I had her top mid way down, sucked on her breasts (another weakness) and then she put up more LMR telling me I was finding all of her weaknesses, more resistance.

    At this point it was very early in the AM and I had to work in less than 5 hours, so I told her we should slow down and call it a night and that I'd see her later that day. She met me a couple of hours after I got off work, and from there we had fun with a couple of games (I'm a bartender) Still the kino, the flirting, the tension, but no kissing/etc. We parted ways early as she and I both have obligations early in the coming morning.

    I get home and she hits me up via facebook.....I am continuing this on a separate post.

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    Default Re: **UPDATE** Help me Smash through LMR Hell Part II HB9

    Help me analyze some of the below if you guys can.

    Her: Hey
    Me: You cheated at darts!
    Her: one of these days you're going to have to give me credit for things (seeking approval)

    Me: I give you credit for maintaining a high level of self control last night
    Her: but you didn't give me credit when that guy asked who won the game between us...(Definitely seeking approval)

    Me: Aww, I do give you credit more than you know for things. I don't say a lot of what I think aloud though.

    Her: exactly it's always been this way, anytime i do well in anything no one has given me any credit- & it's really no big deal people kid and joke around, no biggie. but i hate not getting any credit if i actually do a good job at whatever it may be. not trying to bring up the ex again but he always did it until i finally broke down to him about it. -- (Rapport/comfort. I told her many previous times I'm not doctor phil, that's why she through in the, "not trying to etc")

    Me: I think you looked pretty tonight (I NEVER tell a woman this, ever. I think it's AFC, but she was desperately seeking my approval which she NEVER does so I figured I'd give back. What do you think?)

    Her: Thank you
    Me: Sure
    Her: Sure? lol
    Her: you like to get me riled up and then change the subject and not even let me get anyhting out...soo frustrating lol. i need to work on not letting you get me riled up that way i won't get frustrated

    Me: I have my reason for that
    Her: Oh please do share..
    Me: I want you to lose control, you try so hard to keep self control.
    Her: even when i do spontaneous or crazy, wild stuff i still have control of myself but i'll let the self control down.
    Me: I enjoy it

    Her: it seemed to be more of a challenge with you versus me last night
    Me: Well, women aren't usually a challenge for me. This is new
    Her: i started to question my confidence when you were telling me you wouldn't join me in the bed lmao


    **I am POSITIVE this was a sh1t test. I told her that if she crashed at my place, that I would crash out on my bad boy couch for misbehaving and let her sleep in my bed. Midway thorough our intense sexual/Kino banter, she told me that I couldn't resist her if I had her in my bed. I looked at her calmly, looked in her eyes, and told her that it wasn't going to happen tonight and that we were moving too fast. I'm 100% SURE this was a sh1t test to see if I would jump at the opportunity**

    Me: that's why I get bored so easily with women so easily
    Her: You could have had me and you know it
    Me: shut up lol you fought against it so hard
    Her: You did! You said over and over how you wouldn't let it go further

    Me: you resisted haha. and..dont doubt your confidence at all. I'd have loved to take you into my room and strip you down but I promised I wasn't going to let that happen so fast.

    Her: and it shouldn't..but there are times when things happen. you've been fast with girls before

    Me: I have this is true, I'm used to it...It's like I dont even have to put effort in anymore. I mean sure thats good for the ego but honestly, I forgot how much fun it is to work for something you want. ( this was honestly true....I've been on autopilot for quite awhile now)

    Her: Well I'm glad I could put some fun back into your life lol. But I wasn't doing the teasing..you were teasing me and yourself. I had no part in any of that.

    Me: I'm good at keeping a girl on her toes..and making them curl

    Her: yea yea..haha. Sorry for keeping you up so late last night. All you had to do was tell me to leave! i thought it was hilarious when you said i was a good kisser just from getting a little taste on your neck, because every time i would tell you i am a great kisser you would doubt me so much and i didn't even kiss you and you said i was a good one

    Me: Love your confidence and self assurance--but I did not say I doubted, I stated I didn't know, and still don't haha.

    Her: I'm a challenge in every department
    Me: You're not alone
    Her: get some rest you
    Me: Sure, just try and stay outta my bed for a little while trouble
    Her: will do night night

    I am on three hours of sleep. I have no idea what the f uckI was just saying and I am delirious. Don't judge me right now. LOL

    On a more serious note, here is what I have planned out. If you guys have ANY idea's of a better suggestive method to get this kiss/f close in I am all ears.

    Starting now...

    -Freeze her out for a week or two being too unavailable
    -While being unavailable, keep sexual tension with her in some form or another
    -Set up another solo date at my place and go for the close from there after a week or two.

    The only thing that makes me nervous about this is the FEAR of losing the sexual tension I have created with her. I have busted my ass to make the above possible and now that it's happening I have this AFC fear of the tension dying if I freeze her out. How can I keep it strong without being too AFC about it?

    Any other methods are welcome too!

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    Default Re: **UPDATE** Help me Smash through LMR Hell Part II HB9

    Ahhhhh, any input on this, anyone at all?


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