Alright, so a while back now we had a thread on the topic of high value women and how far was too far when it came to plowing through. I honestly never thought that I would have to write a thread on this topic. I never knew guys were so stupid when it came to interpreting what a girl means when she says no, but now that plenty of you have proven me wrong the conceptualization of this thread has evolved into something much more concrete.
Before I get started let me explain a few things. I've mentioned it before but it's more than worth repeating. A relatively new policy on college campuses across the states is spreading like wildfire. It is known as the Unless There's Consent policy. If you aren't aware of it, educate yourself, because I'm not going to take the time to explain the entire thing to you. Here's a list of colleges that I know have this policy in place:
University of Northern Iowa
Iowa State University
d1ckinson College, Pennsylvania
University of Central Florida
University of the Pacific, California
The policy, in summary, says this: Unless you get a verbal "yes" you do not have consent. Yes, they expect two individuals to have a grown up conversation in which one person asks, "I was wondering if you would like to have sex with me?" and the other responds, "Why yes, I think that would be lovely." and then you do the nasty. I know, that's not how it works. Argue it with me and you're preaching to the choir. I've fought tooth and nail against it with no progress whatsoever, so understand that what I'm explaining is cold hard facts. It is what it is. Accept it or not, the choice is yours, but I'm going to tell you how to get around it, or better yet, how to navigate through it. Whether you choose to do so is entirely up to you, but if you end up in a court of law I WILL say I told you so.
If she's under the influence it's not consent.
Pull a drunk girl or even a tipsy one and you run the risk of being convicted of sexual assault and/or rape. It doesn't matter if she says yes. Actually, it doesn't matter what she says at all. She's drunk. The choice is yours. I don't pull tipsy chicks, but I've got my whole life ahead of me. What about you?
If she doesn't vocally say yes, she can come back and accuse you of rape and/or sexual assault.
Even months down the line. Don't believe me? Ask around. You wouldn't believe the statistics or the stories that I've heard. Without a verbal yes you're f*cked. She can go to church, have a Come to Jesus meeting, change her mind on premarital sex and decide that you raped her. Fair? No, that's why I'm about to show you how to save your ass. This sh*t is straight up dark side and if it weren't for the injustice of the policy itself I never would have written this. Read responsibly.
First things first. There are a lot of old school guys who are diehard M3 Model enthusiasts and won't promote anything else. It works, so why try and fix what's not broken? I can't argue with those guys, or better yet I won't. They're washed out. If I throw out AFC Adam's name and they don't know who I'm talking about I'm left with no other choice but to think their method is outdated. You don't have to plow through a girl's defenses. Give her enough time and she'll do whatever you want, and that's a promise. Not only that, but these Mystery Method Diehards know nothing about the true power of pre-selection and social proof. They're used to flying indirect and solo, maybe with a wing or two if they're lucky, but definitely not with three chicks on each arm. That sh*t blows their mind. No one thought it could be done, that is until Adam did it. The real F*cking Alpha Male. You beta b*tches and your limiting beliefs. I say all of this because it can make your game EXPONENTIALLY easier, and that's what we're all about, isn't it? Efficiency? Utilize pre-selection and social proof and the likelihood of this playing out in your favor is sky high. Don't be that old geezer who refuses to accept change. Stay hip with the times.
There are two different ways that this is going to play out. One is a situation where she throws up LMR, the other isn't.
If she doesn't have LMR
YOU STILL NEED THAT VERBAL YES. You NEED to save your ass. Just because everything is going well and you have complete compliance doesn't save you from jail time. When things are getting hot and heavy, when you're making out and JUST ABOUT to hit that transition spot where SHE would typically throw up Last Minute Resistance, you stop. Pause; look at her in the eyes and either with a slight smile or dead serious say,
"Hey, are you sure you want to do this?"
*Note - I am very picky with what I include as script. I didn't say "Hey, are you okay with this?" because being okay with it and wanting it are not the same thing. This is one of the few times that I'll say it. Stick to the script.
Never forget that you are leading. She wants that. She craves it. Also, acknowledge everything that you just did, because it's a complete and total mindf*ck. You just sent her securities for a loop, because up until this point she was under the impression that everything was fine. It still is and you're going to need to reassure her of that, but your goal is to get that verbal yes, and unless you do something to make it happen, it won't. That's how society has conditioned her and pissing and moaning about it won't change how it works. Pickup is about acceptance to society as is and modifying one's self accordingly. Accept and modify.
She's going to do one of three things:
She might say yes. This is especially true if you have laid the proper groundwork of pre-selection and social proof. If this is the case, rip her panties off (gently ) and go to town.
She might say no. In this case I would respect her decision and understand that she's not ready, though in time she most likely will be. If this isn't you, proceed as if she had thrown up LMR.
She might develop Confused Girl Syndrome. This is highly likely. In this situation she becomes a time bomb of insecurities and you need to defuse that sh*t ASAP. If you don't...well, I'll let you find that one out the hard way. Stay in control. Maintain frame. Don't let her freak out--or worse, don't YOU freak out--but instead calmly reassure her that this is something you want undoubtedly, you just wanted to make sure that she was comfortable with it because you respect her as a person. Do it right and her heart will melt. You'll be in the clear.
If she throws up LMR
Freeze Out, and when I say freeze out I mean commit to the f*cking freeze out. No spooning. No cuddling like a beta b*tch. You need the full effect of a freeze out if you ever hope to stand a fighting chance. You know the drill. Say that's totally fine and you completely understand, you're just going to watch television/check your email/go to the bathroom for a bit. Let her supercharged emotional state bottom out like a rock. When she starts coming back around, DON'T, I repeat, DO NOT give in!!! Not right away. If you do you'll be right back where you started. Let her work for it. Let her earn you back. When it starts getting weird and is beginning to be a bit much, stop her and say,
"I don't really understand what you think you're doing."
"You aren't being very clear."
Read for it? You're going to need some serious frame control. Flip the dynamic. Turn her into the bad guy. Say that you don't understand why she would tease you after you've already respected her decision not to do anything. If she has changed her mind she should by all means say so, but if not you're going to have to ask her to leave. That's extremely disrespectful and unacceptable and you won't stand for it. Here it's okay to show a little bit of frustration or anger. That just shows that you care, not to mention if you show NONE you're going to look like an insensitive asshole, and that by itself will be enough to make her leave. Trust me, I know.
If she leaves, good riddance. You've got to remember that power is held by he or she who cares less in the relationship, and if you aren't realistically willing to walk away you'll never win; however, if she stays and DOES admit to having changed her mind, make her actually, verbally, vocally admit it. Yes, you need a clear cut answer. The best way to do this is to get playful and flirty again, especially after your serious smackdown. Jokingly say you aren't sure. You aren't convinced. Make HER change YOUR mind. Once you get that green light, you're golden. You're welcome.
On a Final Note
I've read a lot of sh*t material out there on this topic and all of it is just that. Sh*t. They charge outrageous amounts of money and don't give you half the content you just read. I give it to you here straightforward and for free, trusting that you'll use it for good and not leave a trail of broken hearts. Please, respect that. Don't let me down.
And if and when she says stop, stop. I don't care if you're just starting, halfway through, or almost done. Put it away. There's a lot more to life than getting validated by women.