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Thread: The Unofficial "I was never given a dating rulebook"

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    Default The Unofficial "I was never given a dating rulebook"

    I was never given a dating rulebook, never once did I wake up next to my bed or for Christmas and have a "dating rulebook" gift wrapped and ready waiting for me high time to get my butt in gear. Check out Dating for Dummies by Barnes and Noble if you want but I guarantee you, you won't find a bunch of rules to live by of time tested material just a booking companies "opinion" of how to date. Nothing against the work just saying I sat there and read a lot of it but just couldn't connect with the information being presented. There is tons of dating books out there should we read them all? No what I am saying is I was never given the "Official Dating Rulebook" for women. Never once something for every setback, sh!t test, rejection, BF card, subtle pass, hook up, mixed signal, being lead on, going back to ex's, etc.

    Let me get this strait as a majority society views Man vs Woman dynamic in a dating mindset. Sure there are those random anomalies of SNL game, One Night Stands, Hook ups, Online Hook Ups, etc but still the story is always the same for me. Girls only want to date me. Sure they try to hook up and I don't notice, or they try to invite me to their hotel but I don't man up, or they try to hint at wanting me but I get too much validation and get on an ego trip. So what I am saying, the unofficial rules is what I am saying. Remember these are more guidelines than actual rules (women love bad boys). Don't follow these rules like they are set in stone or ironclad because they are not just what I like to live by. Think like a Pirate they say in Pirates of the Caribbean "They have rules they must absolutely follow at times and then other times completely back hand them." People die for these rules in the Pirates movies but then they totally ignore them depending on the consequences like they don't matter. The rules you must absolutely follow are the rules of the HB's and if you break those you will be sh!t tested, rejected, blown out, shut down, given the shaft, embarrassed, made an example of, etc. You guys can say what you want but all the girls just want to date me (with a few minor exceptions I mentioned of girls trying to hook up with me). Even when I don't hook up with them they still lead me on till the inevitable Day 2 (fancy word for Date).


    Rule of the HB #1
    Don't ask don't tell
    Never ask a girl for anything unless it is the directions to her apartment, the color of her panties, the location of her hotel, the number to her cellphone, the compliance for a day 2 (fancy word for date). Now you could frame it wrong "Will you be my GF?" that weak little sauce will get shut down for sure but I said one time "You can be my new GF." and got a ping text like I never seen before "You are very strait forward and you are making me wet." But because I made it too sexual after that and never froze out the attraction she lost interest in the conversation. Remember to break the rules like freeze outs aren't only for days long of no contact but also freezing out aspects of your game in a texting convo to up the attraction by cutting off the attraction (this essentially causes her to chase you more rather than you doing all the chasing)

    Rules of the HB #2
    Follow your heart
    Never open a moving target. Well unless she is hot and you have no other option. Remember your #1 rule is to forget all other rules unless she is hot. That is the only thing set in stone to follow. If she is hot you can do whatever you want to and get away with it. Essentially you can open a moving target if you know this is your only chance and not look desperate but if deep down you know you might have a chance at a better angle then take it. Here's what I do. Screw the rules. Again I follow the 3 second rule...unless I am following the ultimate rule of unless she is hot. She is hot so I wait following my ultimate rule. I waited on the Dimepiece and approacher her the second time I saw her when she was stationary at the Bar and should have approached within 3 seconds while she was in motion. I had no opener other than "Hey I like looking at you." Blow out for sure waiting to happen but because I waited I opened her by hesitating for a killer opener to come to me and it did and I opened her finally and got called a hero. That's why I say follow the rules of the HB and approach within 3 seconds unless you know she is hot and you are not and need to work on your inner game for a minute then do it but don't chicken out and approach as soon as that light bulb comes on. Just make it smooth and don't make it obvious you are waiting to approach her. Like turning your back away or distancing yourself from her while you think of a good opener. This has worked wonders for me. "What do I say? Do I go direct? Do I do indirect, no she looks like she won't go for indirect. What's my opener? She looks like she will blow me out aww screw it." When I literally thought to myself at times they would blow me out sometimes they shock they heck out of me and would start in on kino to me.

    Rules of the HB #3
    Man up
    Girls are very subtle. Let me give you a translation
    HB "I just want to go home"
    Translation?
    She wants you to go home with her and you need to man up and tell her
    PUA "Well I want to hang out too but I don't know if I want to unless we leave now."
    HB "I have a hotel"
    Translation?
    PUA "We should hang out at your hotel later then since you seem like you want to party with me."
    HB "What are you doing later?"
    PUA "I am going home but since you are so curious why don't you invite me over?"
    HB Waits by door looking at you hard after following you around the whole place after N-close and killer set.
    Translation?
    She wants to hook up dude time to man up and tell her
    PUA "Looks like you are ready to leave, here I'll walk you out."
    Playing with the hair so you'll approach? Yeah that's not your mind playing tricks on you time to approach.
    Staring hard so you'll approach? Yeah she's not staring at the guy next to you, time to approach.

    Rules of the HB #4
    Just approach
    Just do it man, get the best angle you can. If it means waiting then wait. If it means thinking then thinking. If it means drinking then drink. If it means pumping yourself up in your head then do it. If it means trying to talk yourself out of it like she will shut you down then talk yourself out of it then play tricks on your mind and approach her anyway because times like these don't come around again and the times I tried to talk myself out of it but did it anyway played tricks on my mind and I got blown away by all the hero comments, I rock comments, etc.

    Rules of the HB #5
    Day 2
    Haven't had a date in 10 years but getting closer. Need to get a date by getting more numbers, trying to hook up with HB's to string them along, etc.
    I need to be ready to secure the Day 2 going to go for Yoga and Coffee next time so original. Need to man up and go for the Day 2 right away and stop acting so AFC because my AFC days will kill me. Key concept go for the Day 2 or get stuck days, weeks, months in limbo stuck hung up on some girl.

    I was never given a dating rulebook for sh!t tests, rejections, objections, hook ups, blow outs, approaching, methods, techniques, routines, but I am learning my own routine and something is working not sure what yet. I don't have time to write a book on the subject because I am no expert but I will save how I deal with sh!t tests for the field reports and posts, save how I deal with rejections for the field reports and posts since what is better static information? Or a living breathing organism? If I even tried to explain away sh!t tests, rejections or the like girls would sh!t test me on thinking I know how to get past sh!t tests because they are living organisms not bound to static information found in any forum. Let's see if I can live by these rules and more. But again think like a Pirate Mate, there's no rules but live like a bad boy and you will get left for a nice guy, live like a nice guy and you will get left for a bad boy. You can't predict women live like a Pirate with no rules but rules of your own. Live by the rules of the HB and make them earn it. The best rule you can have if you ever have doubt about approaching in the middle of something is "well she's really hot I need a minute for a good opener." Then Bam go for it but sometimes you have no time at all so you got to go for it right then and there. Just read these approaches out and you will be golden. Go for the Day 2 and the rest should be history.

    So this is not a rulebook LOL, barely a post. But still a slight urging I was having lately about how these hot women expect me to KNOW ALL THE RULES. I don't know all the rules and they act like I do. What is coming of my life alas, alas. Why do they think I should know what a subtle hint is? Why should they think I should know when they are hitting on me? Why should they think I should know when they want to go home with me? Why should they think I should know what is a bad opener? Why should they think I should know when it's not okay to approach? Why should they think I should know when it's awkward? Why should they think I should know when it is going stale? They don't, they don't say it but they act like I do. So I must act like I know all the rules and live like a Pirate because women love bad boys lol. But you could be a bad boy and get treated like a nice guy and get the shaft for being too bad. You never know it all. That's all I am saying you never stop learning I guess. Alas I need to go do some Day Game, really hurting for some fresh Day Game. So what's my point? I was never given a dating rulebook so I will create my own rulebook and live by the rules I know are constant.

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    Default Re: The Unofficial "I was never given a dating rulebook"

    Good stuff man, kind of reminds of 2nd Instincts posts here

    http://www.puaforums.com/pua-openers...ym-opener.html

    but stuff like that is always helpful, bookmarked!
    English is my second language

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    Default Re: The Unofficial "I was never given a dating rulebook"

    Yeah okay just wanted to feel this one out and see the reactions I was getting but since I am feeling pretty good about it I am working on Part 2 and Part 3 for the Unofficial "I was never given a dating rulebook." Better to make multiple entries rather than just one long flipping post since I don't want to put anything out there too prematurely.

    Essentially what I am aiming for with this information is building up how to seduce an HB. And seeing how I have a lot to learn need to amp up some day game and focus on that for now before putting out Part 2. Will come out with Part 2 with 5-6 more rules when the time is right.

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    Default Re: The Unofficial "I was never given a dating rulebook"

    Man I'm loving this #1 "Don't ask don't tell" rule.

    Looking back at my AFC past, it's just so true that a simple question puts the women in lead, lets her control the frame and eventually lets her control you.
    It's not about who I was or who I'm going to become.

    It's about who I am. Do it right here, right now.

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    Default Re: The Unofficial "I was never given a dating rulebook"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf24 View Post
    Man I'm loving this #1 "Don't ask don't tell" rule.

    Looking back at my AFC past, it's just so true that a simple question puts the women in lead, lets her control the frame and eventually lets her control you.
    Yeah what I mean by this is not asking girls things like the following

    Don't Ask Examples
    "Will you be my GF?"
    "Can I have your number? What's your number?"
    "Can I go home with you?"

    Better Frame
    "You can be my new GF, hey want to be my new GF?"
    "Give me your number, What's your last name so I can FB you, What's your number so I can text you"


    Don't Tell Examples
    Don't tell her your intentions whether they be just a booty call, hook up, dating, relationship, One Night Stand, validation experiment, etc.

    I once asked a girl "Can we go on a date?" Oh man she lost it. "You can't ask me that!" It's better to frame it "Hey I am going to XXX later are you doing anything later or can you join me?" Because you are looking too much for her approval when you say "Will you be my GF, will you go home with me, can we go on a date, etc" you are placing too much pressure on her to approve of you and this is where they usually run for the hills. But when I demand not ask "Give me your number and maybe we'll hang out sometime." fits like a glove.

    Also you don't want to tell a chick "I like you, I need you, I miss you, I love you, etc." Well again you can say these things and get away with it but use very rarely if at all. I told a girl I missed her and she thought it was cute but I told the Bartender I missed her and she thought I was lying and she saw through my B.S. So you have to be able to calibrate properly.

    Remember the Ultimate #1 Rule
    Unless she is hot you can do anything you want and get away with it.

    I have pretty much broken all 5 rules and gotten away with it when I was acting cute and doing it to amuse myself but when I was serious and all needy it always went south and I got sh!t tested hard or rejected for breaking the rules. So essentially the only times you should break the rules is to follow the ultimate #1 rule or you can break the rules if you are doing it just to act cute or get a kick out of it because you feel like you can calibrate it after. This is why I say you can flip the script on them and you should to give them something they aren't expecting. I haven't tried the 'Will you be my GF?" yet merely as a validation experiment yet but I just might to challenge myself because I always know as long as you can calibrate it very quickly after something risky or sometime later before she rejects you then there is a good chance you can get away with anything as long as you are on top of calibrating your game to fit like a glove.


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