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Thread: Trouble with the F-close

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    Default Trouble with the F-close

    What's up y'all, I've hung out with this girl 5 times now. We always end up back at one of our places, and eventually get to the bedroom. At that point everything goes as it should with foreplay, I can get as far as hand in the pants playing around. When I go to take her pants off, she stops me every time. At first I took it as a challenge, but this is getting ridiculous. I'm going to ask about it if it happens again, but I don't want to kill the mood. Any suggestions on how to phrase this question?

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    Default Re: Trouble with the F-close

    Don't treat it like a challenge.

    Does she *like* all the foreplay? If so, you have power here and you can use it.

    Push and pull. Get her turned on then stop it before she stops you. Completely stop touching her and just withdraw. Tease her and make her work for it. Don't be a jerk and make too much of a big deal out of it. Keep it playful and just act like you are playing hard to get because... well that's exactly what you are doing. Once she starts acting or talking as if she wants more, give her a bit more. Calibrate and get a good idea of what you can get away with because the better you can read her, the more power you have in this situation.

    You should find that when she spends more time pursuing you she will be more willing to have sex than if you were pursuing her the whole time.

    This is not limited to the bedroom. Find some things that make her weak in the knees (sucking on her neck, hair pulling etc) and do them at random moments throughout the date. Do it for a second and stop completely. Carry on as if nothing happened and just keep her in an elevated state of arousal. This makes a lot of things run smoother, not just the f-close.

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    Default Re: Trouble with the F-close

    I completely agree with psychoactive. Don´t put pussy on the pedestal! If you have attraction going on and she is aroused she will want your dick.

    I was adviced to pull when she is doing something like violently stopping me. It happened at first but then I just started watching tv or check my mobile or something like that and she became really confused. Then when she came to me I pushed her again and to bed we went. It was LMR all along. It must be LMR if you keep going to bedroom, in that point she should know what´s going on.
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    Default Re: Trouble with the F-close

    I've been there with a girl - I would use the phrase "fuckbuddy" to describe her, but actually, we've never fucked. She let me touch her anywhere, but inside her pants. I pleased her with her pants on, but that was it. Fortunately, she was vrey giving - she gave hj and bj every time.

    Maybe your girl is a virgin, has her period, or just hasn't prepared herself both physically and sexually. But yeah, 5 times - it really sucks, I feel that bro. Don't look at her and her vagina as a mountain. Create great atmosphere, get her in the good mood and once, those pants will eventually fell down. Good luck.

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    Default Re: Trouble with the F-close

    dont worry so much about getting the pussy or not. at the same time, challenge her and make her horny but dont worry if you do it with her or not.

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    Default Re: Trouble with the F-close

    Thanks guys, solid advice. I finally ended up closing on attempt number 7. I read into a few LMR strategies which helped. Basically I made her feel like she was in control of escalating the situation and eventually she said the magic words: "do you have a condom?" Oh, why yes, yes I do

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    Default Re: Trouble with the F-close

    Quote Originally Posted by psychoactive View Post
    Don't treat it like a challenge.

    Does she *like* all the foreplay? If so, you have power here and you can use it.

    Push and pull. Get her turned on then stop it before she stops you. Completely stop touching her and just withdraw. Tease her and make her work for it. Don't be a jerk and make too much of a big deal out of it. Keep it playful and just act like you are playing hard to get because... well that's exactly what you are doing. Once she starts acting or talking as if she wants more, give her a bit more. Calibrate and get a good idea of what you can get away with because the better you can read her, the more power you have in this situation.

    You should find that when she spends more time pursuing you she will be more willing to have sex than if you were pursuing her the whole time.

    This is not limited to the bedroom. Find some things that make her weak in the knees (sucking on her neck, hair pulling etc) and do them at random moments throughout the date. Do it for a second and stop completely. Carry on as if nothing happened and just keep her in an elevated state of arousal. This makes a lot of things run smoother, not just the f-close.
    Couldn't have said that better myself. Great suggestion man.

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    Default Re: Trouble with the F-close

    Quote Originally Posted by That_Guy24 View Post
    Thanks guys, solid advice. I finally ended up closing on attempt number 7. I read into a few LMR strategies which helped. Basically I made her feel like she was in control of escalating the situation and eventually she said the magic words: "do you have a condom?" Oh, why yes, yes I do
    I had to give you rep for this. I like that you read info on the problem you were having and ended up succeeding. Great example of how to use the forums. Ask for advice but do your own legwork until u learn how to handle the issue.

    Nice job! Congrats!
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