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    jablesman2k2 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Wink This lay would be a bucket lister! Please help!

    Guys!!!! Been reading this forum for a while now, big fan, have learned A LOT but would never consider myself a master. College student, 22yr

    Story: So as an effort to get noticed more by women I went the easy route and took a pro hormone and gained some weight and muscle. On my frame it looks decent because I'm naturally skinny. Anyways a couple weeks ago I go by this chicks place (who I'm trying to seduce now) and she notices that I've gained some mass, she said "it looks great on you". I considered her a target of interest but, on a story for another day, I banged her roommate who the girl I'm trying to seduce now hates!

    So lately I've been reading up on flirting and sexual tension, Kino Escalation, yadayada. I drank with her and a couple other people at her place. I'm getting into her bubble, telling her she smells great, she asked me if her tits looked good in the dress, that night I make it into bed with her and her drunk friend is passed out in the bed as well, while her other friend is passed out on the floor. She's lying on my arm and telling me about a TV show she watches. We're having a good time, I lightly caress her arm and eventually move her face towards mine to kiss and we make out for a minute or two. She eventually reaches for my sword but becomes reluctant and stops due to the friends.

    The next day, which was yesterday, I hit her up later in the evening and make plans to drink at her place and I'm gauging her as minorly/decently interested in me at this point. Ends up flaking

    Today she texts me saying she's sorry she passed out. I clearly acted like it was no biggie, our convo goes like this:

    Her: Sry I passed outtt
    Me: It's cool. Too bad though, I kinda wanted to lay down and watch the regular show plus a little more haha!

    (She got what I meant by 'plus a little more'. I was trying to build sexual tension)

    Her: Hahaha yaaa my b my b- I totally was watching that also..
    Me: Lol you deff made me a fan. I'll text you after I leave campus from studying later, we should hang out. I'm sure you wouldn't mind a good looking guy in your room. Do you like massages?

    (Again, trying to make her visualize me there etc... setting the tone that I'm not a friend)

    Her: who doesn't!? Ya text me tonight!

    All of this conversation took place over a few hours I was pretty busy

    Me: Hey! What're you doing?
    (As I'm driving off campus)

    And flake again, no response. Were there any colossal mess ups here, I know if she flakes she's potentially lacking interest. I'm still learning, thanks for the help

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    CapPickup is offline PUA Forums Respected Contributor
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    Default Re: This lay would be a bucket lister! Please help!

    Everything's going well

    Just when you text her.. skip that "what's up" "what ya doing" stuff... It's pretty lame and boring.

    What I would do is go straight to the point, somewhere along the lines of.
    "Hey Sassy pants (credits to T-mal) get your baby oil ready! I'm coming over."

    Goodluck brotha! May the force be with your game. BONE-a-petite!

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    jablesman2k2 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: This lay would be a bucket lister! Please help!

    How should I go about getting her to make a counter offer?

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    Default Re: This lay would be a bucket lister! Please help!

    She has flaked on you twice, it is time for a Freeze Out. Don't contact her, let her contact you. I wouldn't even reply the first time, or give her some lame text like she has been doing you. What you should have done as move her to a different location than the bed you were in and finished what you guys started, she likes you but you have created buyer's remorse and that can be very difficult to overcome. You have also established the frame that you just want to fark her, now she knows she has you and you have lost some challenge to her. You need to take a step back in your game and create a little comfort and get to know her a little bit, there is nothing wrong with wanting to get into her pants but its too late to "carpe the diem" and go caveman.
    KISS - Keep it Stupid Simple

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    jablesman2k2 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: This lay would be a bucket lister! Please help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Blistex View Post
    She has flaked on you twice, it is time for a Freeze Out. Don't contact her, let her contact you. I wouldn't even reply the first time, or give her some lame text like she has been doing you. What you should have done as move her to a different location than the bed you were in and finished what you guys started, she likes you but you have created buyer's remorse and that can be very difficult to overcome. You have also established the frame that you just want to fark her, now she knows she has you and you have lost some challenge to her. You need to take a step back in your game and create a little comfort and get to know her a little bit, there is nothing wrong with wanting to get into her pants but its too late to "carpe the diem" and go caveman.
    Damn! Yea I wanted to take her to another spot to finish the job but in her place she has 3 other roommates. Mainly, I don't think she wanted to leave her friend that was passed out in the bed because it was her friends 21st birthday.

    Did I really create buyers remorse? How do I avoid this next time? I mean she knows me and has said that I'm sexy to one of her mutual friends I assumed it was enough of an established connection there.

    Altogether though, is buyers remorse just from a lack of interest/connection?

    Should her interest level be peaking when I kiss her? How can I do better next time when this situation pops up with another female

    P.s.
    Forgot to mention the girl I'm seducing is leaving to go to New York in a week for 3 months and is coming back. I wanted to establish something, nothing serious, but I wanted to give her something she might crave when she gets back if you get my drift. That might be why she's a little flakey, I can understand.

    Any suggestions are grwat!

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    Default Re: This lay would be a bucket lister! Please help!

    Eh, you could always go caveman and give it an all-or-nothing shot if you really wanna give it a whirl before she leaves. I have had about a 25% percent success rate with my method.

    Also you created buyer's remorse because she didn't really know you, you had her going, but she has had some time to "come to her senses." You avoid buyer's remorse by making sure there is rapport, connection and a perceived depth to what the two of you share before going for intimacy, that way she doesn't feel like she got "stiffed"...heh. I made a punny.

    I actually slept with a girl one time just because she wanted to and hated myself for it. She started really liking me and I had to reject her and felt like crap for doing it in the first place. I had buyer's remorse. The best way to avoid it is to simply not sleep with a girl just because you need to catch your nut, but rather choose women you actually do share a connection with so that neither of you regret it, that you are happy you were able to share the experience together.

    Also after sleeping with a woman make sure to give some small gesture to show you still care, such as a text when you wake up (if you didn't leave after sex) telling her you had a great time and are glad you were able to share the experience with her. You want something that isn't needy, that doesn't pressure her into something but does show her you didn't just use her as a cum dumpster.
    KISS - Keep it Stupid Simple


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