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    Smile Part of the Deviant method

    I will expose a few points from my own bastard style of pick up. THE DEVIANT METHOD... This is called K-FLAME. one of the techniques i made myself, it works learn it and use it.

    This technique will defeat LMRs before they start , Build sexual Tension and establish attraction for you. Plus most importantly it makes your intensions known.

    Acronym: K- Flame

    1.Kino
    2.Flirtatious behavior
    3.Labeling
    4.Adult conversation
    5.Mirroring
    6.Eye contact

    Any questions feel free to ask, This has gotten me laid dozens of times my gift to the community. Just remember where you got it..
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    Default Re: Part of the Deviant method

    Great post Deviant! I was wondering if you would go into detail a bit more into each step and elaborate a bit on when to move from each stage to stage, and what to expect and things of that nature.

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    Default Re: Part of the Deviant method

    K-FLAME

    The best part about this method is that all the steps can effectively be done at the same time with practice.. The way it kicks in its almost like a circuitry overload…

    1.KINO: By using KINO early on and often you get your target use to having your hands on her. I like to start on the finger tips and work my way in to the core. Stomach, Hips, Small of the back, also if your can grab a little (closed hand around the wrist) you be doing fine. Successful KINO will put you in position to K-close and F-close. She’d be less likely to be unresponsive because you’ve established touching all night.

    2. Flirtatious behavior: This will steer you clear of the friend zone because you will be subtlety letting her know your intentions with her. You don’t have to be so aggressive but make sure she knows you want her. Not as a GF either. I’m talking about sexual tension and attraction.

    3.Labeling: This will be the reward for her playing along nicely. “you know what I like about you? You known how to relax and have a good time’’ “your always in a good mood that’s really awesome’’ By giving the reward in advance you give the target a standard to live up to. She be less inclined to disappoint you because then she wouldn't be so awesome.

    4.Adult conversation/ Adult behavior: You should have a appropriate date set up. A couple of date in you can go for ice cream. I don’t suggest this for a first date. I prefer drinks after works or after 8pm set up a date you can get some really good conversation in and have great opportunities for building sexual tension. Give yourself time to transition. As far as adult talk goes Don’t be so vulgar but don’t be afraid to speak freely. Cursing is ok, Being cocky funny is ok. Shock her a bit. It will work in your favor in the long run. Just relax and do it. Remember this her potential BF is not afraid to talk in front of her about anything. Neither should you.

    5. MIRRORING: Ever notice people who have known each other a long time they use the same lingo when they talk. Learn her language give it back to her. If she hi-fives after making a joke. Give it right back to her when you make one. You will copy her body language also this will close the gap and unconsciously she will feel more confortable around you and feel like you understand her.

    6. EYE CONTACT: Maintaining eye contact will build great sexual tension and attraction between you and your target. Especially nowadays people don’t look each other in the eye for some reason. It’s a great opportunity to separate yourself from the insecure AFC’s chasing her.

    Your aim here is to use KINO while being FLIRTATIOUS During ADULT CONVERSATION maintain EYE CONTACT and MIRRORING her language and movements. You will be using LABELING to reward and check her behavior during the process.
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    Default Re: Part of the Deviant method

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    ''I looked up your "deviant method" and it's pretty dumb quite frankly.
    What more of a method do you need other than-Talk to girls.Escalate.''

    The words of Legitscumbag (No pun intended)
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Had legitscumbag actually looked at what was writing instead of who wrote it. He would understand that K-flame help's you ''Escalate'' Through being Bold,Direct,Fun and sexual.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Legitscumbag says ''Escalate'' but doesn't say how.. Its fairly obvious that K-flame is all about escalation. Perhaps legitscumbag just says the word ''escalate'' and the girls gets Hot from Legitscumbag magic.
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    NOW AS FAR AS THE DEVIANT METHOD GOES. The Deviant Method is actually all about properly accessing a target and Escalation through building sexual Tension between you and your partner. However, K-Flame is only a very small part of the Deviant method. K-flame is a way to conduct your self in order to better your chances at getting laid. K-Flame is battle tested. Its reversed engineered some of my own personal game thats been getting me laid for years. Its currently has got me Farking like TT Boy.(popular porn star)
    you guys feel free to use this to ''Escalate'' and F-close.

    Acronym: K- Flame

    1.Kino
    2.Flirtatious behavior
    3.Labeling
    4.Adult conversation
    5.Mirroring
    6.Eye contact

    *Feel free to post your thoughts and results.*
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    Default Re: Part of the Deviant method

    1.Kino
    2.Flirtatious behavior
    3.Labeling
    4.Adult conversation
    5.Mirroring
    6.Eye contact
    this reminds me a lot of how Tucker Max games girls. (he pretty much just makes fun,has fun, makes out and makes love) (and if you haven't read any books from Tucker Max you should consider buying them, they're packed full of hilarious stories about drunken nights and sexual conquests)

    now, could you give us a brief description of what you do in each step of "K-flame" ???

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    Sounds right up my alley.. I will look him up immediately bro..
    also the K-flame is explained on the second post here.. check it out and let me know what you think..
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    Default Re: Part of the Deviant method

    Dude,

    You are over complicating escalation.

    I understand that not everyone will know what I mean when I say "escalate" so I will describe that in more detail.

    Escalation simply means moving things forward.

    For example,if you are texting with a girl and having a good conversation,tell her "we should hangout".

    If you are talking with a girl you don't know,ask her for her number.

    If you are on a date and you sit down in a booth,tell her "why don't you come sit with me" then sit with your legs touching.

    If you are kissing a girl then grab the back of her neck and squeeze her ass while you kiss her.

    Those are all escalations.Basicall y just make a move.Move it forward.

    Escalation may be difficult at first if you aren't used to it but with time and practice it becomes second nature,just like riding a bicycle.Eventually it will 'click'.

    If you have trouble with escalation you can also break it down into smaller steps and learn one step at a time.

    E.g. learn how to go up and talk to a girl.No not doing pickup stuff,just a basic normal conversation.Then learn to ask for her number.Then learn to get her to go on a date with you.Etc.

    Also being comfortable and relaxed is a big part of things.

    If you aren't comfortable and relaxed your escalation will often become forced and unnatural and girls won't respond as well to it.

    This is also part of the problem with following a "method" of escalation.It can remove the passion and authenticity from what you are doing.

    Escalating is feeling not thinking.You do it because you want to not because you "need to".

    Being comfortable and relaxed will come for some guys just from practice and getting success.Other guys,such as someone with serious social anxiety,might have some issues to overcome first.

    You also don't need to "build" sexual Tension.If you find each other attractive,just spending time together and interacting will build sexual tension on it's own.

    For example you don't make eye contact on purpose to "build sexual tension".You should be making eye contact because the girl is hot,you are interested in her,and you want to look at her.It's not something you do to "build attraction".Does that make sense?

    This list is unnecessary.All you need to do to get laid is just interact with a girl like a normal person and make a move.

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    I honestly like & agree with that.

    The thing is though, SOME guys don't "get it" until you break it down like an instruction manual at first.

    It really does just boil down to: "learning to be social, confident & genuinely fun & interesting."

    I DO see a lot of guys put waaaaay too much emphasis on "the opener" or "routines" & they try to memorize scripts, thinking it's the SCRIPT that gets the ball rolling...

    When in fact, it's the INTERACTION that does.
    It's not about "magic lines".

    I try to break things down with examples, and not only explain what to do, but WHY to do it. (There's a psychology factor at play).

    Also- I'll admit that MY style does NOT work for every guy, and does NOT get every girl.

    I fine-tuned my style to attract a particular type of girl that I'M attracted to. (The fun, quick-witted, intelligent, confident girls... who are usually kind of sassy & a bit of a smart ass & have a zero tolerance for bullshit.)

    I like girls who keep me on my toes & can challenge me a bit. The ones who can take it AND dish it out.

    I shortcut the process & find out immediately if the girl & I are gonna click or not.

    I don't change my approach or who I am for anyone. They either like me the way I am or they don't.

    I really do get what you're saying... but I also know that the PUA techniques DO work. But it's what a guys does AFTER he gets the girl that really counts.

    You and I really aren't that different.

    I constantly tell guys to quit relying on memorized, canned routines & just use those as templates to understand the process of being social.

    Routines can help get you going, (like training wheels) but eventually you gotta take the training wheels off & start to roll on your own.


    Need one on one private coaching? PM me for details.

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    Default Re: Part of the Deviant method

    The k-flame is simply what i do reverse engineered and explained in terms of escalating with a female.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    @legitscumbag ''If you are on a date and you sit down in a booth,tell her "why don't you come sit with me" then sit with your legs touching.''
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    Thats both flirtatious behavior and Kino or Number 1 and 2 on my list.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------@legitscumbag ''-For example you don't make eye contact on purpose to "build sexual Tension".You should be making eye contact because the girl is hot,you are interested in her,and you want to look at her.It's not something you do to "build attraction".Does that make sense?''
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    Yes it actually does make sense, but I'm not surprised you make a mistake here
    because it seems Eye contact( which is number 5 on my list ) is sort of a lost art nowadays. You should actually be making Eye contact with anyone your speaking to. Its about respect and confidence and establishing trust. Your eye contact should not be limited to those who are ''Hot'' only. does that make sense? That being said Sense eye contact is a lost art you can actually gain some ground and(YES) build some attraction by looking her in the eye.
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    @legitscumbag ''This list is unnecessary.All you need to do to get laid is just interact with a girl like a normal person and make a move.''
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    Exactly what part of the list is ''Unnecessary'' ? The list is me making my ''MOVE'' and ''acting like a normal person'' That being being said I've been getting laid. while you may not agree with all of it thats cool you don't have too. But once you think about what your doing to get laid you would find that you actually doing most of the list. As you found when you made suggestions about what you should do and I just pointed out what you suggested is actually on my list that you call ''unnecessary''. Guess we are not so different after all huh Bro.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------
    You don't have to follow me verbatim.. I follow No one verbatim however this is the general area you should be in when out with a female. It's worked for me and its actually pretty natural. Reverse engineer yourselves and successful moments with ladies you'll spot what works for you the most you can all compile your own personal list. This one is mine though. I hope you find it helpful. *feel free to try it out* *post any questions or critiques*
    As you see I'm more than willing to defend K-Flame. This came from NO BOOK, This came from NO GURU. I stand by K-FLAME because it's mine and it works. I have a complete understanding of it so Answering questions about it is fun to me..
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    Default Re: Part of the Deviant method

    Quote Originally Posted by DeviantMethod View Post
    K-FLAME

    The best part about this method is that all the steps can effectively be done at the same time with practice.. The way it kicks in its almost like a circuitry overload…

    1.KINO: By using KINO early on and often you get your target use to having your hands on her. I like to start on the finger tips and work my way in to the core. Stomach, Hips, Small of the back, also if your can grab a little (closed hand around the wrist) you be doing fine. Successful KINO will put you in position to K-close and F-close. She’d be less likely to be unresponsive because you’ve established touching all night.

    2. Flirtatious behavior: This will steer you clear of the friend zone because you will be subtlety letting her know your intentions with her. You don’t have to be so aggressive but make sure she knows you want her. Not as a GF either. I’m talking about sexual tension and attraction.

    3.Labeling: This will be the reward for her playing along nicely. “you know what I like about you? You known how to relax and have a good time’’ “your always in a good mood that’s really awesome’’ By giving the reward in advance you give the target a standard to live up to. She be less inclined to disappoint you because then she wouldn't be so awesome.

    4.Adult conversation/ Adult behavior: You should have a appropriate date set up. A couple of date in you can go for ice cream. I don’t suggest this for a first date. I prefer drinks after works or after 8pm set up a date you can get some really good conversation in and have great opportunities for building sexual tension. Give yourself time to transition. As far as adult talk goes Don’t be so vulgar but don’t be afraid to speak freely. Cursing is ok, Being cocky funny is ok. Shock her a bit. It will work in your favor in the long run. Just relax and do it. Remember this her potential BF is not afraid to talk in front of her about anything. Neither should you.

    5. MIRRORING: Ever notice people who have known each other a long time they use the same lingo when they talk. Learn her language give it back to her. If she hi-fives after making a joke. Give it right back to her when you make one. You will copy her body language also this will close the gap and unconsciously she will feel more confortable around you and feel like you understand her.

    6. EYE CONTACT: Maintaining eye contact will build great sexual tension and attraction between you and your target. Especially nowadays people don’t look each other in the eye for some reason. It’s a great opportunity to separate yourself from the insecure AFC’s chasing her.

    Your aim here is to use KINO while being FLIRTATIOUS During ADULT CONVERSATION maintain EYE CONTACT and MIRRORING her language and movements. You will be using LABELING to reward and check her behavior during the process.
    * Your feed back is encouraged *

    This is basically what everyone does. At least, anyone who's been getting laid (or attracting girls).

    First we have the attraction phase, then the comfort building stage (either through words, either through mirroring her body language). You can either be cocky and funny, use push-pull, use qualification or whatever, as long as you accompany it with proper body language (touching and eye contact), but this K-Flame is simply common sense in this world. You simply resumed it into a few topics. No innovation, just good skill to summarize things.

    Anyway, good effort, but I don't really see any new stuff.


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