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Thread: Getting stuck badly and frequently in this phase !

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    Default Getting stuck badly and frequently in this phase !

    Hi Guys
    This has happened 3 times in a row now !
    I meet girl, I make her laugh, I flirt a lot with her, chatting, sexual escalation (in chat), she gives IOIs and SOIs as well. I get her number ; in all last three cases she even proposes to go out and get a drink sometime.
    I get her out for a casual drink; I keep The Vibe easy going (role play as husband and wife,divorce etc.)

    But I cant even kiss close. I am bad at the meeting in person and escalating I think.
    I tease her a lot (sometimes I think too much), but I am not sure what else to add on. The comfort building (where u ask her insightful question)s to get her to open up seems too much like an interview.
    I did that still at the last girl I went out with for a drink. Got to know what she wanted to go long term and her perfect place to be and so on. I did qualify her as well. All said, I was not able to, either create comfort or create sexual vibe with conversation. I know body language is crucial but I am stuck for topics to speak of especially before making a kiss close or getting her to be very open and comfortable around me. Should I be giving more compliments (I hold back on them really unless she really deserves them). I also give SOIs (especially in role play). Like the last girl, I made her agree I gave her fantastic orgasms (as a married couple). Its a bit confusing what I am doing wrong.

    It really is a sticking point as girl after girl (especially when the girls where the ones chasing me in the first place), I manage to fuck up. I am getting frustrated as to what I am doing wrong.

    I would really love some feedback here.

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    Default Re: Getting stuck badly and frequently in this phase !

    I miss the big Kino part, I usually go for the kiss after whispering something in her ear.
    Maybe you should give her what i like to call "mini orgasms" Escalate bit by bit, then she will do it for you eventually. You seem to doing great with the talking bit. For the interviewing part, I cant really help you on that because i do it to and am working on that.

    But use some kino to open her up. Get close contact, look in her eyes and watch where her eyes are looking at, If she is looking at your mouth a few times, she is thinking of kissing you.
    If you are sitting in a date situation don't sit in front of her. Sit beside her, more opportunity for escalation and kino.
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    Default Re: Getting stuck badly and frequently in this phase !

    Gotcha, Thanks for the feedback.

    I know getting physical is important but u cannot do that unless you have a solid conversation going on. Otherwise the girl becomes conscious that you are touching her and that's bad, isn't it ? That is where I am at loss, i cant figure out quickly enough how I can get her to be comfortable enough that she doesn't mind me touching her at all.

    I have seen Brazlian guys do that so quickly; I wonder what exactly are they saying to those girls that they not only giggle but allow them to escalate physically. They get the girl comfortable so fast !
    I am told repeatedly to Kino but I do not get that. How can I be touching a girl if I am not keeping her busy emotionally in a conversation.

    Can you give me some solid interactions/examples for the mini-orgasms you are talking about ?

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    Default Re: Getting stuck badly and frequently in this phase !

    You don't need her permission to introduce Kino in the interaction. Kino should start discreetly. As soon as you meet with the girl, touch her arm. Show your warmth. There's nothing creepy about that. Notice her earrings, rings, necklace. These are all opportunities to introduce kino and it also gives you something to talk about. Start from "socially acceptable" areas, like shoulder or arm. Then move on to her face, neck, hair. You can also touch her legs and waist, if you feel she's comfortable...
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    Default Re: Getting stuck badly and frequently in this phase !

    Quote Originally Posted by rom9 View Post
    Can you give me some solid interactions/examples for the mini-orgasms you are talking about ?
    Am writing a guide for it right now, but ill explain it short.

    Mini orgasms is the use of Kino and verbal communication.
    Its what wolf is telling you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf24 View Post
    Start from "socially acceptable" areas, like shoulder or arm. Then move on to her face, neck, hair. You can also touch her legs and waist, if you feel she's comfortable...
    In order to give mini orgasms you make sliding movements doing this, example.
    If you are touching her wrist "accidentally" use your fingers to go to her elbow very stubble,(while talking)
    She will notice you doing it, and she will hold her breath a bit in. that's what i call a mini orgasm.

    Its very power full and it leaves her wanting more.

    I used it very often in loud places where you need to come close to her,
    and talk in her ear, You "accidentally" move your hand up her arm to her neck and then move her hair aside with your hand. Very sexual very stealthy as others will see from a distance that you are just talking to her. Mean while she is turned on. You can even place your leg between hers, the leg thing is risky move but can be very rewarding. If it works you will see that Familiar look in her eyes that she wants you. Its almost same look that they give you at penetration while having sex.

    You should check out Stealth Attraction on youtube, its very sneaky but effective stuff!
    Basically what every nice guys with a edge needs.

    Most of the times i use kino before i even have said a word. (you will need some practice to do that.)
    I have done a lot of practice on pivot's and befriended girls and i still do.
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    Default Re: Getting stuck badly and frequently in this phase !

    You are making the pick up too mechanic. It should be fluid, dynamic. Don't think "ok, first let's do the attraction phase and then the comfort building phase".

    No. It should be a mix. Obviously you won't talk about deep psychological things right at the beginning, but while you're teasing her, or being cocky and funny, every now and then try to get to know her. Make her talk.
    Improve the amount of touching also. Do hi5s, thumb wars, etc. Goofy things, but funny.


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