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    Default How To Use Boyfriend Destroyer

    Ok, so there is this girl I lived next door to for the majority of my childhood and we were childhood friends and hung out literally everyday all the way until I moved away in like 9th grade. I still saw her every once in awhile afterward and after we both hit puberty we talked for awhile and we actually were planning on having sex (meaning I'd take her virginity) but this was before I had a car and could go see her so she ended up getting a boyfriend and such and we didnt really talk about it anymore and we lost touch. So now the guy like controls her and takes her phone and all this other insecure shit. So anyway she texts me one day asking to hang out and smoke a blunt but tells me not to text her just in case hes with her and will get mad and we ended up not hanging out cause he was with her all day. She grew up to be a freaking 9 and I totally want to twax. I dont want to date her though because she became a little too into getting high (she dont do heavy drugs but she smokes wayyy too much weed and does party drugs like xanex and molly which I'm not into at all) and doesn't seem to be going anywhere in life but I'm in college and run a business and want a trophy wife. Anyway she is very open about how freaky she is but I dont think shes a slut cause I never heard about her cheating on the guy but I want to smash that, I've known her since we were kids and I think I should be able to try to hit that at least once haha.

    Anyway if we end up hanging out I plan on smoking a blizzy and doing some Kino while reminiscing on our childhood and plan on using a BF destroyer technique on her to hopefully get her to twax. The problem is I've never done boyfriend destroyer and have no idea how to use it so could somebody run down how I could use it in this situation? To me it seems very low risk cause she wouldnt get creeped out cause she knows me and if she rejects me she wouldnt judge me cause we talked about doing it before they got together plus we were like best friends as kids.

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    Default Re: How To Use Boyfriend Destroyer

    I also forgot to mention the boyfriend cheats on her regularly, that may be of importance to know.

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    Default Re: How To Use Boyfriend Destroyer

    bro use straw man technic, hope it f work. keep us updated.

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    Default Re: How To Use Boyfriend Destroyer

    Whats the Straw Man technique? Never heard of that one.

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    Default Re: How To Use Boyfriend Destroyer

    It is actually that,

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    Hey Guys,

    I want to take a moment now to elaborate on dealing with girls with boyfriends. Guys, if you’re like me you want to get the extremely hot girls [HB9+]. The “problem” is these girls are NEVER single. They are always gonna be involved in a ‘relationship’ with someone [or quite often a couple guys]. Now this is where the ethical question comes in….is it cool for you to continue to sarge a girl who happens to be ‘in a relationship’, i.e. has a boyfriend, is married, or whatever… Excluding the situation where the girl happens to be your friend’s girlfriend [this situation brings up a completely different ethical question which I will not be addressing here], her fidelity is a moral question that only SHE can answer.

    Think of it this way, how arrogant are you being to assume that you know what’s truly going on in her current relationship? How presumptuous are you being to assume she is getting everything she needs out of that relationship? How do you know she’s not in an open relationship? And goddammit, why are you selling yourself short knowing that people are always looking for an upgrade and you’re not viewing yourself as her opportunity to trade up?? Point is, she may be in the perfect relationship for her, she may not be. She may be the type that sleeps around even when she is in a ‘committed’ relationship, she may not be. Whatever her situation and character is, the moral question to be faithful to her current boyfriend is a question only she can answer.

    That being said, how do you deal with the boyfriend objection?? The typical AFC will usually try to get the girl by belittling and berating her current boyfriend. They will typically say stuff like he is a jerk and that she deserves better [the presumption being that he is better]. NEVER DO THIS!! EVER!!! What you are really doing here is not belittling her boyfriend, you are insulting her. You are subcommunicating that she has bad taste in men. You are saying that she is the idiot girl who stays with a guy that’s not good for her. Ultimately by going this route your underlying subcommunication is that she is in a bad relationship and she deserves nothing better….Well, guess what guys even if your AFC plan to get rid of the boyfriend works and she does break up with him, she certainly isn’t going to be trading up to you. Remember you framed her as having bad taste, so she certainly isn’t going to go out with you to further illustrate this point, is she? Do you guys see the power of setting proper frames?

    So now you’re thinking, “Well, Adonis, how do I do it then?” I personally have a few methods I like to use. Sometimes, I use just one….sometimes just a couple…often times I’ll use them all. I like to think of “boyfriend destroying” as a form of “absentee amoging”.

    I’ve always found the best way to AMOG is to build the guy up like a giant straw man. So guys, I present you a new community term: Straw ManTechnique (SMT). In logical reasoning there is a fallacy known as the Straw Man Fallacy. Basically how it works is you refute an argument by building it up to be something it isn’t, then you refute that. For example, I could build George W. Bush up to something like a modern Jesus Christ [or whoever!] and then attack him for not quite measuring up to the ridiculous standard I presupposed him to have. I haven’t really attacked George Bush perse’, I’ve only attacked the fact that he’s not Jesus Christ [or whoever]. You can do this when you AMOG. I like to put a ton of social pressure on the AMOG by making him out to be bigger than life–something that he can never measure up to. Why do I do this? The weight of the enormous amount of social pressure I’ve now heaped upon him will cause him to crumble. He will blow himself out and slink away…all this and you’ve never insulted him. I have executed the perfect SMT on him. The funny thing is, you only have to do the Straw Man framing, they will do the rest. It reminds me of the origin of the term “Straw Man Fallacy”. It comes from the practice of building big straw man in the likeness of the enemy for soldiers to practice attacking. All you have to do is provide the straw man….the troops of social pressure will tear him down.

    {By the way, as a side-note, this is part of the reason why guys will blow themselves out when they go in supplicating a woman. When you treat her like a Goddess from the beginning, you tell her how beautiful she is, you buy her all sorts of fancy gifts, you are heaping a lot of social pressure on her–the kind of pressure she can’t live up to…So what ends up happening? She blows you out so she doesn’t have to deal with that kind of social pressure! SMT in action! (counter-productive action, but SMT nonetheless!)}

    Some of my favorite SMT boyfriend destroyers:

    “You have a boyfriend? Oh my god, it must be so incredible to be with a guy who knows how to fulfill you in every way you truly need to be fulfilled.”

    “I’ll bet you’re like his little princess that he would go to the end of the earth to satisfy your every desire no matter how silly it was….and no matter what the cost was for him….that is so cute.”

    “I’ll bet he’s the kind of guy that places you up on a pedastal so he can worship you on the throne.”

    What does this stuff do? First of all, prima facie it seems really sweet of you to say these things [you've built your cute little straw man], but really you’re doing some sneaky shit here. Basically you’re building him up to an impossibly high level….and he’s not going to be able to measure up to it. This will cause her to think of all his shortcomings and all her unfulfilled needs and desires [she attacks your straw man and destroys him]. Guess who she is gonna be thinking about filling those voids with? The guy that is so fucking alpha that he can talk to her like this. Also, no woman of quality would actually respect a guy like this. So even if she did think of him as being a quality guy, she will now start seeing how all those nice things he does for her, really demonstrates his low value….and you will implicitly gain value for covertly bringing this up.

    See how this works guys?? Damned sneaky, Damned effective!! Guys, start practicing your Straw Man Techniques! Develop some of your own….share them here!

    A little later I will get to the other aforementioned techniques for boyfriend destroying. In the meantime, have fun playing with SMT.

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    Default Re: How To Use Boyfriend Destroyer

    The straw man technique is the prelude for the BF destroyer. Think of the relationship as being a box with cracks and the boyfriend Destroyer as a crow bar. The SMT will help you position the crow bar and lock on to the box for you to be able to crack it. It helps you figure out where the relationship is most fragile, you just have to listen to the HB.
    "The world will never change much less become what you want it to be. The only thing that can change is you. Face your fears, grow stronger and become what you want to be."
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    Default Re: How To Use Boyfriend Destroyer

    UPDATE

    I was with her last night. Throughout the night she started calling boyfriend (she says they broke up but she still says not to text her in case shes with him) you know who. Pretty much I had the house to myself and told my buddy he could bring his mistress over and I'd have her come over for a double date/kick back kind of thing. So like originally planned we smoked a couple blizzy's and we downed a pint of Henny to ourselves throughout the night. So we started out at my house playing music while everyone was getting drunk and she and I were drinking and smoking. We sat there and talked about stuff from our childhood (said friend lived next door to us as well for a year or so) and all this. After about an hour I could feel her starting to get bored so buddy texts me and says we should take the girls out to where we used to live so they dont get bored and it works like a charm. We get out there and explore a bit and then head to a buddies house from our hometown (we used to live in the country, buddy we visited lives in town). As we drove we passed places where I boned chicks before so I was open and said I boned girls at those spots to her (cause this seems to work for the buddy who was driving because he smashes hot girls all the time and thats literally what he does) and she'd just say "wow" with a smirk. We go there for awhile and of course she got bored cause me and the buddy who had girls were he only ones with girls and there wasn't a place for her to sit in the group so we left.

    On our way back to the city we live in now I started talking about how when we were kids how I had a thing with her older sisters and how she used to cock block (shes two years younger than me and her sisters are my age and the other a year older) then I started saying how she turned out to be the hottest out of them and then she smirked trying to say her favorite one is hotter (which honestly she was hot when we were younger but now she has no but or tits and has a stomach, no go; the one this post is about is significantly hotter than the other two). I then asked if she thought she was better at making out than her sister and asked if she was more of a freak and she kept the big smirk on her face. Through the whole time I was doing Kino, I had my hand on her legs and all that without a negative reaction. I then tried to bring up how we used to talk but supposedly she forgot. This kind of discouraged me into thinking she was rejecting me so I backed off a little but continued kino and flirting throughout the night. My buddy dropped us off at my house but I had to drop her off right away because she was staying at her sisters and she was supposed to be back back 12:30 but it was 3 AM. So I didnt have a chance to Isolate her by ourselves to smash and its hard for me to make a move in front of people when I havent even kissed them before. So I drove her home had her give me a hug and told her to hit me up next time shes free so we can hang out by ourselves. I kicked myself for not going in for the k-close but other than that I think it went well. My buddy said he thinks she'll for sure let me smash next time so what do you guys think? What could I have done better and what should I do next?


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