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  1. #1
    Sigma-957 Guest

    Default An unusual situation ...

    Greetings guys;

    I've got a really unusual situation here, a possible opportunity for seduction, and I don't want to pass it up ... but it's different.

    Let me explain here ... I have talked to a woman on the phone and she told me she was upset at her boyfriend ... I didn't find out why but she did complain and it made me wonder what she was trying to say to me (subconsciously, perhaps?).

    Now, here's what's unusual about this situation : this girl is a model. She does glamour, nudes, fine art stuff, and even fetish and bondage work.
    She is amazingly beautiful, but even told me she didn't think she was that attractive!

    Notice I said bondage. To pseudo-quote Rick James (Hahaha) she's a "very kinky girl".

    In fact, she is a submissive in her private life, and I even found out she enjoys being humiliated in her private life too. I am a beginning photographer, and asked her if I could if I could apply humiliation in the context of a bondage shoot...

    She didn't tell me to fuck off, or tell me I'm crazy, or even that it was inappropriate to ask! She told me she "was a bit concerned" because she's never had that done before (in the context of a photoshoot), she said she wouldn't know if she'd like it or not.

    I noticed that she never did describe her boyfriend as a Dominant. She always used the term "boyfriend". Now, this fairly unusual in the lifestyle (ie, BDSM/kink) ... the terms girlfriend, and boyfriend are not used. The terms are almost always, Dominant, Dom, Domme (female Dominant), and even Master and Mistress, and of course, "Dominatrix". That's rather stereotypical though.

    Anyway, I believe she is in a relationship with an incompatible man whom she is just comfortable with (she told me it's been 5 years, and she's 22), that does not want to treat her how she really needs to be treated (read : like property).

    That's not to say she needs to be treated poorly... she just needs a man to be very Dominant with her and keep her in her proper place. I think what she is doing is using her bondage modeling to explore her submissive side... since she may not get treated the way she does during these shoots, in her "normal" life.

    Lastly, the caveat is that I can't directly hit on her if I have her model for me, because it's considered unprofessional ... and she'll get pissed anyway. I already told her I wouldn't hit on her.

    But, that can't mean she can't be seduced, does it? I hope it doesn't mean I can't carefully attempt to steal her friend her boyfriend.

    I should at least state that I don't want to steal this girl from her boyfriend for arbitrary reasons. I really think I would do better for her, that's all. I don't want to hurt her, but that doesn't mean I can't use subterfuge to get her!

    So anyway I've been reading about seduction techniques, as well as NLP, covert hypnosis, fractionalism, and even the October Man method.
    It's all quite interesting ... and I'm coming to believe that "Ends Justify the Means" when it comes to getting women...

    Anyone have any ideas on how I could stealthily seduce her? I can't believe a model is immune to this sort of thing, either.

    Also, I wish I could post a picture, but I think I shouldn't, to protect her privacy...

    -- Sigma-957

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    Default Re: An unusual situation ...

    well first off not a bad read for not only the way she is but what she wants and how she might be getting it. the problem with such a specific read is that it is either really right or completely off. i think what you need to do is instead of going with such a far out idea is to go with a closer more appropriate and not far out there read.

    next thing. ill help you on thinking about it. you havent told us she is having problems or anything. so you trying to use us to break up a relationship. have u hung out with her enough to know if your a good match and whether you would really want this girl or are you just mezmorized by her looks. if so im going to have to go with the im not going to help you. i dont care if other people help i just wont cause it is immorale to break up a good relationship when there are tons of other women out there, and it seems like your main reason is for her looks and sex.

    not cool bro.
    I live in my reality and you’re a guest

  3. #3
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    Default Re: An unusual situation ...

    No, no, no. I haven't even met her yet, just talked to her about 3 or 4 times... and yes I do believe she is having difficulty with her relationship. I'm not going to arbitrarily break her relationship up to get sex from her...

    But if I sense an opportunity and I think I'd be better for her, then I may take that as a hint.

    I'm not going to be unethical about anything. I have no intention of causing more harm than good.

  4. #4
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    Default Re: An unusual situation ...

    Hmmm... even if she's in a bad relationship, I'd stay out of it, unless the bf was beating her or something.

    I'm into photography too and if it were me, I'd just really use the opportunity she presents for some kick a$$ portfolio. Credits to the muse, of course.

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    Default Re: An unusual situation ...

    wow crob you have morals!! holly toledo batman! ... wow i sounded like a nerd there...

    Yeahd dude im in agreementwith crob. I dont use PU to bust relationships up. Anyways if you learn the way of the PUA and develope a naturaly strong alpha male frame she will most likelu be attracted to you anyways. So work on yourself, who knows what will happen later.

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    Default Re: An unusual situation ...

    yeah matter just not gaming her will in the end game her. she might get her attracted to you by just being around you but PU is definitely not used to break relationships. just find other girls if not im probably not helping break up a relationship. its on you. but trust me. just do you and that will probably do more than gaming her.
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  7. #7
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    Default Re: An unusual situation ...

    Plus, if you do get the girl from the bf, what will stop some other guy from getting her away from you too?


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