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    Exclamation Cannot close please help

    Ive gone home with this girl a couple of times, but I cant really get things going past cuddling. Ive tried Freezing Her Out and nothing seems to work.

    Any ideas of things I can do to escalate the sexual Tension and get things going?

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    Default Re: Cannot F close plz help

    more detail. how old are you? how'd you meet? Do you think of each other as gf/bf?

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    Default Re: Cannot F close plz help

    22, in college. Known her for almost a year, this semester we started sleeping over at each others place like once a week or so. We are not gf/bf.

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    Default Re: Cannot F close plz help


    What does she say when you try? If you have known her this long and still nothing has happened I am going to go out on a limb and say that you have landed in the friends zone. I have had lots of friends who would come stay with me and sleep next to me in my bed, but still just friends. If this is the case it’s a whole new batch of ideas to get you out of it. Most importantly getting her to stop seeing you as a comfort feature, and instead as a sexual partner.

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    Default Re: Cannot F close plz help

    Gotcha, we make out and I get to mess cuddle but that is it. When I try to go farther she just says no.

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    Default Re: Cannot F close plz help

    But ya there is a good chance I am in the friend zone. I think she just gives me some to keep coming back.

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    Default Re: Cannot F close plz help

    Yeah its very possible you are. If you are then this is what I suggest… a hard Freeze Out, I mean hard. No phone, no text, no facebook no nothing. Then go out and run some really solid game get you some new chicks in your life. Not just for the sex, but also for the fact that men are far more attractive to women when you are surrounded by high quality women. Also there is the jealousy factor. Like I said before you have to get her to shift the way she thinks of you. Then go back and after you have raised your value and lock it down.

    There is also one other thing: it could be a moral issue for her. If it is I will not give you any advise on how to get past that cause when you run game you have to respect others opinions and morals. If this is the issue well… sorry… I live in the deep south and every now and then I run across this. Best course of action is accept it and decide if its worth the wait of lack of sex.
    Hope this helps

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    Default Re: Cannot F close plz help

    Haha I can tell you its definitely not the moral issue, I'm pretty sure its the friend zone. Thanks for the advice, I'm going to start a hard freeze tomorrow. In the mean time I met some cool girls this week and I think I am going to focus on them for a while.

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    Default Re: Cannot F close plz help

    ight then let me know if u need anything else

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    Default Re: Cannot F close plz help

    Another quick tactic you could use along the lines of the hard Freeze-Out, is to invite her over in the same fashion that you would on a night she'd stay over (do whatever you have to set it up WITHOUT saying or implying that she would be staying the night). Hang out for a while, and then around bed time, kick her out.

    "Hey, really enjoyed our time. I have to get up early. You can come over again later this week." or "hey, this has been nice, but I've got COMPANY coming over shortly. Can we continue this later in the week?"

    If you're not sure whether you're in the friend zone, then she hasn't explicitly expressed it to you. So you still have the upper hand. PUT HER in the friend zone.


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