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    Default How to continue?

    Hi everyone, I will describe what is my situation first

    There's a Korean girl, 4 years older than me, (I'm 20), that I have started to see. We have met for 2 times (the first time it was pure chance, the second on purpose), and we have great time and flirt a lot. I had a minor Kino problem, as I didn't build enough comfort so, maybe because of her culture, it felt a bit violent, but after the last meeting (today), it was her actually who started with the kino.

    Now there's a problem, the first time we met, I tried a kiss-close, and she told me that "I wasn't her boyfriend" (she doesn't have one anyway), I reacted a bit bad, instead of smiling and being like, nevermind, I was like "so what's the problem?"... yeah, bad moment for me, I thought it was closed as she was IOIng me all the time

    Then, today, she told me more crazy things about being it normal for Korean people to kiss the couples, and that it was really weird to kiss people with who they weren't going out. Since we can just meet once more, I need some advice please!

    What should I do? try the kiss-close more solidly, making some statements like "would you like to kiss me?" or so, go for the boyfriend bit (ridiculous for just 1 day more I think), or any other suggestion?

    The maximum I could get to her to do is to say goodbye with 2 kisses on the cheeks, Spanish-style, and I got a basic of kino, going up to a hug and tickles. Should I do more kino first? (remember that in Korea, the personal contact is a bit different, it's more strict/intimate)

    Thank you for the help!
    PS, sorry for my bad English

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    Default Re: How to continue?

    Build build build it looks like you may have built the foundation then went straight to trying to construct 2cnd floor. My suggestion is it looks like she is into her culture, start talking about things you value most in people when setting expectations tell her that you value women with integrity and that you won’t be playing any games.Never never ask for a kiss, use a game You: “if I were to let you kiss me how would I rate it from 1 to 10”Her : haha I wouldn’t kiss youYou: yea that’s probably a good thing for you because I wouldn’t want you to fall in love with me that fast I like to take things slowHer: haha blabalaYou: so do you love me yetHer: hahah noooooYou: ok give it 15 seconds Just keep it going but use push/ pull get her thinking about how good that kiss could be...anticipation and the old saying “curiosity killed the cat” just plant the seed get her thinking about it.Good luck

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    Default Re: How to continue?

    I will definitely follow do the pull/push, and it's very useful the "game for the kiss", I didn't think about it really!

    Also, I have to say that, after talking with other 3 different Asian people (2 from Korea and 1 from Japan), it's exactly the oposite in their culture than in ours (Europe and USA I think),

    We first kiss, then go out with them and then tell them that we love them
    They first say that they love each other, then go out and then kiss (in general, there's always exceptions ofc!)

    But no one of those 3 friends could give me any advice as yours! Thanks!

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    Default Re: How to continue?

    Asian chicks tend to play very close to the vest. Regardless of what they are truly feeling, or how horny they may be, they have major slut shield hard-wired because of their culture. You will need to invest more time with Asian girls to overcome this. You will need to move much slower. Build a lot of trust well before moving to topics of sex. You will need to demonstrate that her reputation will stay in tact. Saving face / keeping face is critical in their culture. Don't expect her to just give it up.

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    helloworld is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: How to continue?

    Hahahaha yeah! It's truth exactly everything you just said! I can tell after a long kiss-close in my room!
    I had to build way TOO much confort, I will tell (shortly) how I did it.
    First we met she, other couple and me, but the guy and she had to leave (different ways), so I went with the other girl, my friend, and while I was with her, I got a text from the Korean girl asking me to meet me after she did what she had to do.

    Then I said goodbye to my friend and told this chick to come to my residence. Played a bit of piano for/with her (classical for me, just learn moonlight and you teach them the beginning of the left hand, with some Kino, while showing your high social value), then I took her to my bedroom for a moment (so she was familiar with it), said hi to my room mate and left.

    Then, after insisting (maybe a bit too much, my fault!), I got to give her a single kiss on her mouth in the elevator. After about 1 hour out, just meeting some friends (showing more social value and building some comfort), our friends left and I told her that I needed to do something else in my room. Again, my room mate was there, so we just played for a bit with the webcam, using a lot of kino.

    Suddently, my roommate left, and after a failed kiss-close, she told me that she had to leave. PANIC! Then I told her how I felt about her, that I had a crush on her and that I'd miss her (it's my last day here!), with one of my really warm hugs (;

    And, magically, what I learned that I shouldn't ever do (because it actually doesn't work for Europeans), worked much better than expected, after the hug I kissed her again and I found no resistance at all! (apart of a big paranoia making me lock the door and jumping on each external sound that we heard! it was in the level that European people would be when actually having sex!)

    Notes:
    This girl (and I'm guessing many of them) was not really a good kisser, I guess it's because of all the cultural problems with kissing there

    As I found out, to "like" someone for them is not anything special, it's like, they can like something or dislike it, so the sentence "I like you like crazy" or similar ones doesn't really like. Instead, they use "I love you", and it's actually, believe it or not, the equivalent to "I like you" in normal English, and it's normally said (and it worked pretty well with me) before of the kiss.

    AND NO KISSING IN PUBLIC PLACES! And even less if you are not her bf! I scared the hell out of her... hehehe sorry! (;

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    Default Re: How to continue?

    Monarch's got the right idea


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