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    Default Re: BF Destroyer Technique

    So when is the cutoff between a STR and a LTR. The LTR one won't work if the relationship is too new because she will be projecting all these false traits on her guy. Basically viewing him "as the best". If she still is in the moonlight faze the STR technique might not work.

    Also, would this work on a girl you f-closed in the past but were never in an actual relationship with? I ask this because she would already know somewhat, how you would be as a bf, since you have already spent some time with her. Thanks allot Xavier.

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    Default Re: BF Destroyer Technique

    Sorry if I'm necro'ing a dead thread but I'm looking for some advice please guys...

    So I've been chatting to this one girl for a little while now online, I opened with an opinion opener as she'd listed herself as being taken/living with boyfriend. Worked like a charm but she instantly mentions being in a relationship, I don't let it phase me and go into some dhv, negs, push -pull and varying time it takes to respond so not to appear predictable.

    We've exchanged numbers and gone to texting as of the day before yesterday but am just keeping things slow (totally AFC I know but that's why I'm here)

    Now she's not mentioned this boyfriend to me once since, is it likely to be a shit test or is what I'm doing working?

    I've only just discovered this BF destroyer thread and can't wait to try this on her if he does exist.

    Oh yeah and Xavier you are the man my friend...

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    Default Re: BF Destroyer Technique

    @direct... If u already had a good time with her, your value is still good. If you had any fights or showed low value, the Bf destroyer wouldn't work as well. Either way, use it! It's to make her at least doubt her boyfriend. So unless she knows you thoroughly (which doesn't seem to be the case with your situation) it will work.

    @vidar... An ioi is an ioi is an ioi. Keep pursuing and don't be clingy. The fact that she gave u her number although having a boyfriend is a good sign. Value your progress. Keep going. Don't know what else to say lol.It's really just that simple.
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    Default Re: BF Destroyer Technique

    Quote Originally Posted by DirectIsBest View Post
    So when is the cutoff between a STR and a LTR. The LTR one won't work if the relationship is too new because she will be projecting all these false traits on her guy. Basically viewing him "as the best". If she still is in the moonlight faze the STR technique might not work.

    Also, would this work on a girl you f-closed in the past but were never in an actual relationship with? I ask this because she would already know somewhat, how you would be as a bf, since you have already spent some time with her. Thanks allot Xavier.
    You're right there is a cutt off between the two , but I can't tell you that each relationship is different from the last. That being said, on average, I think, 5-7 months is optimal for the LTR BFD because at that time the couple is having big fights and it's when both parties are at each others throats and are thinking of calling it quits it will then be easiest for her to dump him.
    After that, it will be harder for her to dump him. Don't get me wrong, after you build deep rapport with her she will start to talk to you about him and you will notice how much she isn't in love with him anymore and that dumping him is the logical thing for her to do. She won't because she will think but I've been through so much with him I can't just dump him; that's just because women aren't logical.
    After that, you will enter with the BFD. It will work, you will sleep with her, but she might not dump him then. You have to be ready for that. She cheated on him with you because you are a huge upgrade, not because she is a whore. You would do the same. If you cannot view it as being that, you will have trust issues with her for the remainder of your relationship.
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    Default Re: BF Destroyer Technique

    Quote Originally Posted by Vidar View Post
    Sorry if I'm necro'ing a dead thread but I'm looking for some advice please guys...

    So I've been chatting to this one girl for a little while now online, I opened with an opinion opener as she'd listed herself as being taken/living with boyfriend. Worked like a charm but she instantly mentions being in a relationship, I don't let it phase me and go into some dhv, negs, push -pull and varying time it takes to respond so not to appear predictable.

    We've exchanged numbers and gone to texting as of the day before yesterday but am just keeping things slow (totally AFC I know but that's why I'm here)

    Now she's not mentioned this boyfriend to me once since, is it likely to be a shit test or is what I'm doing working?

    I've only just discovered this BF destroyer thread and can't wait to try this on her if he does exist.

    Oh yeah and Xavier you are the man my friend...
    Okay, you got the ioi's good. Keep DHV ing build rapport. I have a thread on that. Go for the STR BFD.
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    Default Re: BF Destroyer Technique

    Hey man, found thread Tyler did on Bf destroying. It's too long to post but I think it's good to have because he discusses some situations that you don't. Also, the set up info for the concept is really good
    Last edited by KristiBell; 12-11-2013 at 12:31 PM. Reason: link
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    Default Re: BF Destroyer Technique

    Just ran a BF destroyer over the phone originally posted by Xavier. Worked like a gem. I could hear the disappointment in her voice as she described her relationship with this mentally abusive beta. Gonna cash that in by the end of the week. I got to use multiple reasons jealousy, abuse ect . The guy is fucking toast when I get to town.

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    Default Re: BF Destroyer Technique

    Damn now i know why i get the gf that has already a bf, am being naturally very nice about him!
    Seems the nice guy with a edge has it advantages, all do i make fun of them after they broke up what a idiots they actually where. (never do that makes a lot of trouble but it can be fun if you like adrenaline)

    But i never did it when she has a marriage ring or is engaged. Then have standards and bail.

    Works like adding oil to a already burning fire.
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    There's this Seductress (from Pandoras Box) that is in a relationship with a friend of mines. That guy is totally AFC and rescently tried to steal a girl from me (which resulted in helping me but that doesnt matter) so I have no moral problems stealing his... In the last week I ve seen that girl twice and hardcore Kino has been going on. We started throwing water to each other as a game and today that I saw her again (the second time this week) it continued. We were with mutual friends and at some point, where I was lying on a bench, she came from behind me and poured a whole glass on my chest which "forced" me to take off my shirt. After I placed it on the balcony show it can get dry as soon as possible, I went on a small room and she followed me and told me she wants a hug lol! I truned away and said that after all that work she finally achieved her goal, me taking of my shirt. She grabbed me from behind and kissed my back etc. Also when she was going to leave I refused to let her kiss me and she got SO FUCKING MAD!!! LOL SHE LITERALLY WENT COWGIRL ON ME FIGHTING WITH ME TO FINALLY KISS ME ON THE CHEEK!!! Anyway what I want to ask is this: She probably wont say anything about her bf and I will have a smooth way into her pants. But should I somehow mention him, and if so at what point? After fucking her or making out with her? Before that? Also I am going to disqualify her at some point, should that be before or after the bf destroyer?
    Also another question I have, which have nothing to do with BFD is that she may be just playing with me and dont want to fuck me after all. How am I going to prevent this from happening? Will just disqualifying, kino and alpha talking work on this girl and prevent her from friendzoning me?

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    Default Re: BF Destroyer Technique

    Absolutely amazing! Is this what they call the "SMT" (Straw Man Technique)?

    Anyway, found a few posts on another forum and a couple of sentences to use a little over 12 months ago. I pretty much just translated those sentences to my own language (Swedish), and made a fine-adjustment myself to make it sound even "better". It contained pretty much everything you went through, Xavier;

    You credit the BF for sooo much that he is not. She immediately started tearing him down, and I remember running around in my new flat I just moved in to, thinking:

    -"I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS WORKED OMFG OMFG OMFG!!!!! WHAT THA F******CK!!!!"

    I kept running, jumping, screaming, fist-pumping in the air... you know, what normal people do.

    (((((((((I met her at work last year, but quit around New Years to go study))))))))

    Anyway, the time came to attend the annual Christmas Party, we both went to the same pre-party, had a real good time. Talked, laughed, smoked, drank, everything went in the right direction. When we arrived at the Christmas party, almost every seat was taken, but we got sat down next to each other and continued to talk, Kino and all that. Then when we were out smoking, I went in for the kiss. For some reason I blew a little smoke in her face, and walked up to her like reaaaal close. She then said;

    -"I want to, but I can't. I have a BF." (I knew this from before, but hadn't read up much on SMT. SMT happened AFTER this X-mas Party btw)

    I then quickly recalled reading a one-liner, so I went with the;

    Me: -"I have a goldfish."
    HB: -"So?"
    Me: -"I thought we were talking about stuff that doesn't mean anything." (or something along those lines).


    After this party, a few days later, she texted me on facebook (she hadn't replied to any of my 2 messages I sent prior to her message, but now finally did).
    We chatted a lot, both on and off work. We didn't really meet/hook up or anything, we just chatted a lot, kino, intense eye-contact etc.

    During these convos is where I implemented SMT and went total ape-shit that it actually worked.
    I (we) built a time-bridge to see each other on Christmas day (99% is out partying at this particular day).
    But something happened the week before. We went Christmas-shopping together, and I felt she was distant from the very beginning. It turned out her mother kicked out her husband (her father??), so she was feeling very down. She did not reply to any of my 2-3 texts (during 1-2 weeks) after that.


    I called her once though, after my tattoo-session. She did not reply. I then got a text later that evening, you know, saying; "What did you want? I was at *city* with my BF and his friends shopping."

    I replied with some cheesy line and did not get a reply.

    My gut is telling me, or told me that; (she just got her drivers license, so she was their designated driver)

    -That she was driving
    -BF was riding shotgun
    -Her phone was on playing spotify music in the car
    -I called, my name came up on her display
    -BF questioned her, went bananas, whatever
    -Forbid(???) her to talk to me or something like that

    That is what I think happened, that lead to her ignoring my texts. She is now back at where I work. But she only works a few hours every week, since she is currently studying. We don't seem to have a problem keeping a conversation going like we did before, lots of laughter, me singing Westlife - Total eclipse of the heart, you know, the usual.


    After this wall of text, I have finally come to my point, which is;

    We have gathered a few (~20ish) colleagues from work, to go out to dinner and drink tons and tons of alcohol (boss is paying). And apparently she is joining us. Since alcohol will be involved, I tend to merge, or rather upgrade to an even more awesome person that I am on a regular basis. So is this where I should pounce? Have she lost all connection to me? How should I proceed here? I really want to bed this girl, perhaps even steal her (I've never had a GF, never wanted one. Guess I'm not the emotional type).

    I could really really really REALLY use your advice here. I know it's been a long read, but she is the shortest, 'hottest', CUTEST, nicest-really nice-too nice actually. And also, best...ass....ever.. .! But yeah, that's just a bonus.

    I'm looking forward from "tips from the coach", or anybody out there. All opinions are welcome, I probably missed out half of my story, but I'm not really a writer early. I prefer speaking, even though I have a small stutter I fking hate.

    PEACE OUT!!


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