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    Default Re: Virgil's Journal 4

    Great Journal, Virgil. Yeah, I've always depicted the horse as the person's ideal lover as well. Flowers being children? Interesting, I've always interpreted them as friends when I do the cube, I guess that, like all routines, have adaptations.

    I've recently discovered the two different alpha male styles myself. My findings were similar to yours. However, I believe you can mix them into one. I think I've managed that, or am on the path to doing so at least. I'm naturally the social alpha, I've enhanced this with taking even more of an "I don't give a fark attitude", but I also believe, in doing this, I've taken on some egotist alpha traits.

    For example, if you're being social alpha, you're still doing what you want, a trait you linked to the egotist alpha, because you want to interact and that's what you're doing. If anyone responded to you in social alpha "mode", then you would still have the "that's you're problem" response.

    With both styles, the core values are the same - Doing what you want to do and not caring what anyone else thinks, being confident in yourself etc.

    I think you can find that balance. You seem to have said that the egotist alpha says what he wants and doesn't care, whilst the social alpha tries to please everyone. Why can't the social alpha say what he wants and not care? I find people respect you more if you say what you really think, not what they want to hear.

    I may have misinterpreted what you were saying, but that's my grasp on it.

    Hope all works out for you, man, and that smile comes back .

    : GeMiNi :&

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    Default Re: Virgil's Journal 4

    Thanks .

    No, you haven't misinterpreted it. The thing is, in social alpha male mode (let's call it SAM) I am very social but the pleaser to others, while in egoist alpha male mode (EAM) I only want to please myself. In SAM mode I can't tell anyone that something is their own problem, because I feel too affectionate and like I really want to help out because I care about people. For me, that's unseparable from SAM.

    In EAM however, I just go my own way. I have to say, in that mode, I am more alpha in every way except for the happiness and socialness. I don't care about what others think, do my own thing, am not staring at women, say whatever pops up in my head (and more often than not, people respond positively to things I wouldn't say in SAM), etc. However, I truly believe that if I get myself to become more social in EAM mode, I will have found the "perfect" alpha male for me.

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    Default Re: Virgil's Journal 4

    That's what I mean. I think there's a way to integrate the two. I wouldn't saybim there yet but I'm making progress. Like I said, I'm naturally SAM, so I focuse more on EAM but tried to keep qualities of SAM.

    Hope all works Out for you, Virgil .

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    I think it's easy for almost everyone to become either the SAM or the EAM after getting rid of some AFC beliefs/social programming, but the difficulty lies in combining the best qualities of the other alpha male type with your own. The challenge is to become a complete alpha male combining the best of both worlds. I'm definitely going to try to add the best of SAM to my EAM.

    EDIT: this post makes no sense as it's almost the same as I've described above, lol. Guess it's because I'm tired

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    Default Re: Virgil's Journal 4

    Yeah, I see what you're saying. Im striving for the same. Until then, I have been attempting to switch between them depending on the environment I'm in and what people respond to. I've tried approaching a set in SAM and later transitioning into EAM.

    We'll get there .

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