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    Default Virgil's Journal 4

    Hey guys,

    Lately I've been way too busy to do any PUA in practice. School has kept me busy but the year is almost over and the coming weeks I'll have a lot more time for it. So I'm not going to report on any sarges today. I actually think I didn't do any since my last report, nearly two weeks ago.


    Two different types of alpha males
    Something has been on my mind, though. After reading tons on alpha males and the kind of men women are attracted to, I realized there are two types of alpha males:

    1. The social alpha male. He tries to make everybody his friend, is always happy and enjoying himself. (similar to Mystery)

    2. The egoist alpha male. He does whatever he wants, isn't afraid to say anything to anyone and is like "if you want to hang out with me, do so. If not, that's your problem." (similar to David X)

    The thing here is that I can get into both mindsets. But not the two combined, simply because when I'm in social mode, I don't want to fark up so I filter out anything that might be offensive to others or could damage my reputation. But when into egoist mode, I am able to say anything on my mind without giving a damn and I do whatever I want. I simply let go of the feeling of having to please anyone, but it's also making me feel slightly depressed.

    The thing here is, if I am to go direct, I should be able to say anything to a woman, which I can as an egoist alpha male, because I'm being completely myself. I won't even feel like I have to apologize, cover anything up or explain anything because I am being myself. I will go for what I want and won't be fearful doing so. However, I'm not that social by nature so I won't be gaining tons of friends. I will become more of a leader though.

    If I am to go direct as a social alpha male, I'm not being completely myself as I'm setting up a Mindset and I won't be fully unapologetic and confident. Picking up women will become harder because I don't want to fark up and I care about her opinion. But I will gain more friends.

    So yeah, there's a contradiction there. I feel like if I can get the slightly depressed feeling out of the way which I get when I'm completely myself (egoist alpha male), the choice is easy. So I guess I should just work on that.

    Perhaps I should also do more research on these two types.




    the cube
    So just now I did the Cube on myself. I found this book on it and it told me to perform it on myself first.

    The cube is me.
    The ladder represents my friends.
    The horse is my lover.
    The storm is trouble.
    The flowers are children.


    Here's what I described:

    The cube: a little to the right in the middle, reasonably far away, medium size, made of iron.

    The ladder: close to the front in the middle, tall, made of wood.

    The horse: In between the cube and the ladder (in depth), normal sized, brown colored, looks at me.

    The storm: Behind the cube, the cube and the horse are slightly raining wet, there's a small tornado on the ground (looks like the Tazmanian Devil from the Looney Tunes spinning around).

    Flowers: Hundres of them, daisies, white, all on the left side.


    Interpretation:

    CUBE
    Below the horizon: practical, worldly, down-to-earth, sensual.

    All kinds of colors. Red: warm-hearted, tempered, passionate, aggressive. Green: hopeful, optimistic, ever-reviving, nature-loving,ecologically aware, wealthy.

    Yellow: cheerful, upbeat, making people happy.

    Distant: protective of your space, independent.


    HORSE
    Brown: warm, earthy, sensual, unpretentious.

    Near the cube: close to you, loyal, committed.


    LADDER
    Descending into the ground: Help your self understanding, go deeply into your life, are undermining you.

    New wood: are fairly new friends.


    STORM
    Behind the cube: in your past, ignored by you.

    Electrical: shocking, illuminating.

    Tornado: violent, destructive, acute.

    Rainstorm: an emotional crisis, bringing tears, depressing, necessary for growth.


    FLOWERS
    Far from the cube: other peoples, not a part of your life, living far away.

    In the foreground: very important to you.

    Many flowers: many children, your life's work, other peoples.

    Wild growing: not your responsibility, entrusted to life.



    My thoughts on the result
    Most of this is pretty accurate. However, the horse represents a lover, which there isn't. Also, my friends aren't undermining me and the newest friends I have have been that for a year. Which isn't really new to me.

    The storm is accurate. I've left my sh1t in the past, although it still comes back at me sometimes (horse and cube in front of storm but still slightly raining wet).

    I don't really get the "many flowers" part because I don't have children, nor do I want them at the moment so they are totally not my life's work at all.





    The end
    This was a pretty lengthy journal. I hope you enjoyed it and would love comments on the two types of alpha males and my cube, no matter what. Just post any thoughts you have.

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    Default Re: Virgil's Journal 4

    it can sometimes be fuure projections, like the horse can be u're ideal partner and the many flowers mean that in the future u would like to have many kids. as for the friends thing maybe it's u're uncounscious thinking about the friends u made on here in your journey.
    P.S:Btw is it just me or is the activity on this site booming seriously every two hours u have a new list of new discussions
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    Default Re: Virgil's Journal 4

    Yeah, that's possible. Is there any place I could look up such alternative outcomes?

    And yeah, the site's activity is booming. When I signed up over a year ago it'd take a day for the list of new discussions to fill up. It gradually got busier, but lately the site has had a lot of activity. I noticed the "boom" like two or three months ago, when Cody, Batman, Whitedragon, Siliconmagician and EMSaenz all signed up at around the same time.

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    I honestly forget where i learned the cube but i've been doing it since i was 15 and almost always interprete the horse as the person's ideal partner.
    Yeah i think it's cuz they reply to almost everything. They've been a great help to a lot. They should get some paper out of it :P
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    Default Re: Virgil's Journal 4

    The flowers are all the AFC chumps on this forum with oneitis!

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    Default Re: Virgil's Journal 4

    Quote Originally Posted by roland777 View Post
    The flowers are all the AFC chumps on this forum with oneitis!
    Oneitis is a disease bruh !!

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    Default Re: Virgil's Journal 4

    Cool journal Virgil,

    I understand what you mean by the two types of alpha males. I think they eventually blend together. When you be yourself, you just tend to be happier and enjoy yourself more. It highers your value and people want to be around you. Instead of winning friends, they try to win you. Like pre-selection, being an alpha male is a self-feeding cycle once you get it going.

    I wonder how/if your storm is affecting your flowers. :P

    Maybe your flowers represent children in general, not necessarily your (future) children? Are there many children in the background of your life? Do you interact with multiple children? I mean I don't know, just throwing stuff out there.

    And yeah, Lol. I just hate to see guys ask questions without receiving answers. There are so many great guys on here that there's no reason someone shouldn't get help with whatever problem they're having. BatMan and Whitedragon are fantastic with that, and I'm glad. Granted we don't always agree, but that's cool. Different views offer different options, and there are a lot of sticky situations in The Game.
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    Default Re: Virgil's Journal 4

    I've been trying to define the alpha male as one thing and its always made it more difficult for me. This was a great post. The only thing is that I feel is that when your in social alpha you should still be telling people how you feel when asked or when you feel a strong aversion to something somebody is doing, just not shoving it in there face like the egoist. Socials seem firm where as the egoist are unmoving.
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    I'm an egoist alpha male and when i think of it sometimes it seems like i have a lack of emotion. Furthermore getting into PUA and psychology led me to understand people's moves and actions and they just don't seem as interesting anymore. Sometimes I just sit there and think she/he is doing this cuz she/he will think this will hapen, but she/he is wrong she/he should do this instead what an idiot. Incidentely do u guys know how i can stop this?
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    Default Re: Virgil's Journal 4

    Quote Originally Posted by roland777 View Post
    The flowers are all the AFC chumps on this forum with oneitis!
    Come on, bro. We were all on that spot once.

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    Cool journal Virgil,

    I understand what you mean by the two types of alpha males. I think they eventually blend together. When you be yourself, you just tend to be happier and enjoy yourself more. It highers your value and people want to be around you. Instead of winning friends, they try to win you. Like pre-selection, being an alpha male is a self-feeding cycle once you get it going.

    I wonder how/if your storm is affecting your flowers. :P

    Maybe your flowers represent children in general, not necessarily your (future) children? Are there many children in the background of your life? Do you interact with multiple children? I mean I don't know, just throwing stuff out there.

    And yeah, Lol. I just hate to see guys ask questions without receiving answers. There are so many great guys on here that there's no reason someone shouldn't get help with whatever problem they're having. BatMan and Whitedragon are fantastic with that, and I'm glad. Granted we don't always agree, but that's cool. Different views offer different options, and there are a lot of sticky situations in The Game.
    The storm might drop a drip or two on the flowers all the way in the back, but they're not affected in general. There are plenty of kids in my life nowadays - four of my uncles have one or two kids between the ages of 1 and 10. So yeah, that could be it. I guess I've just got to practise on wider interpretation of the cube.

    Quote Originally Posted by xavier View Post
    I'm an egoist alpha male and when i think of it sometimes it seems like i have a lack of emotion. Furthermore getting into PUA and psychology led me to understand people's moves and actions and they just don't seem as interesting anymore. Sometimes I just sit there and think she/he is doing this cuz she/he will think this will hapen, but she/he is wrong she/he should do this instead what an idiot. Incidentely do u guys know how i can stop this?
    YES. Exactly. That lack of emotion is what I'm talking about. That's what gives me the slightly depressed feeling - while as a social alpha male, I'm smiling and interacting. Those are the only advantages of a social alpha male to me so I'm just going to remain an egoist alpha male and force myself to interact - which should bring that smile back.

    Those people don't seem that interesting anymore because the mystery over their actions is gone. Dunno what to do about that.


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