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    Default My observation about women and other guys out in the field

    I went out lastnight, it was last minute, couple of my boys called me to go out since its a holiday weekend. I will make a field report and post the link here but I just felt like voicing my thoughts on what I saw last night here to help others including myself.

    - Whats a nice guy? What is a bad guy?

    Guys stop thinking 'I need to be a bad guy' as being an azzhole in order to get females. To me in our community the definition of what a nice guy/bad guy is is not defined properly.

    A nice guy is guy who is not assertive, insercure, not an alpha, overly sensitive, doesnt challenge his target, gives emotional support or who initiate emotional behaviour and someone who rolls the red carpet for any/all women despite if there is interest or lack thereof.

    You do not want to be this remember. You will lose all the time. Studies show women only go for nice guys when they want a 'long-term relationship' because he is safe/predictable. That means when they run out of options you will be the back-up player off the bench who gets to play that last 2 minutes at the end of the game. Dont be the last choice, be her first choice. So if you hear a female say, "He is such a nice guy" think that she is actually saying "Look at the cute little puppy, he is so cute awwww".

    Some think the opposite of a nice guy is a bad guy/bad boy, sadly not. The opposite is actually being a man / an alpha: Being powerful, confident, a leader, a warrior, a thrill-seeker, a challenger, someone who believes in self-growth and who do not put a target on a pedestal, and someone who is able to articulate their thoughts and desires without remorse.

    You want to be this because the rewards are endless. This doesnt come overnight, it takes: time, experience, patience, consistency, drive, and openness to change. Studies show women end up having flings with guys like this because these men are exciting and they fill the void of what an actual/real man suppose to be. You want to be this because you will be her first choice. She will be so happy to tell her friends about you and why you are so awesome to date or to have sex with.

    What's a bad boy/guy? He is an: azzhole, very boastful, loud, narcissistic, impulsive, and demanding jerk.

    You do not want to be this either. There are no rewards unless you are looking for people to be intimidated by you rather than to complement you.

    - Dressing a specific way, looking a specific way or being ripped will draw girls?

    Looks is just 1/3 of the battle. You will come off as attractive or attract your target but if you cannot bring home the kill you will end up losing all together. What I mean by that? Is that if you approach a target and you know how to articulate yourself through body language or by conversation then you will be able to close. You cannot close with only 1/3 of effort you need to put more energy into it.

    - Re evaluate yourself

    Going over your mistakes, pin-pointing errors that you made, and admit when you have farked up is good. Through learning and knowledge you gain power. Just like what Paul Janko said, reevaluating where he went wrong and understanding where he needs to be and then creating a formula for that was the key/stepping stone in going in the right direction.

    - Know your target

    Understanding that there are different types of women is good. Direct Game might work for a group of potential targets but Indirect game might not. That is also vice-versa, indirect game might work for some and direct game might not work for others. Know your target.

    An example of this was last month. I approached this HB9 and her two friends. The HB9 after my opener said 'You look like so much fun what is your name?'. I told her my name and she told her two friends my name. She then proceeded to say 'Normally I do not remember guy names but I remember your name for some reason, that is a good thing'. Right then and there I knew I had to use direct game.

    - Transitioning and closing is very important

    Every PUA masters express this. Number closing is very important, physical escalation is very important, kino is very important etc. etc. Once you have gone through your opener, build some comfort or rapport remember to not fark up. Once you fark up in transitioning its hard to close after that.

    I learnt this the hard way in college, even on here I have posted recent situations where I totally lapsed here. I remember in college/uni one of the hottest girls on campus invited me out for lunch. After lunch we was walking to class and I asked her if she was on facebook. This was when facebook was the new craze. She looked at me as if I committed a vile act against humanity by asking her that question. I knew I farked up then because I went from dhv to being like every other guy. It was hard to recover after that. Damn she was gorgeous, oh well.

    - Just because its going great doesnt mean you have closed

    Just because a target is showing interest doesnt mean you have it in the bag. That bag can have a hole in it. You have to still put effort into executing your game properly. Is like surgery, you cannot rush surgery, you take your time to dissect your patient, do your function, and close out, all of this while maintaining your frame.

    I see guys on a regular basis get a girl, talk to her for 15 to 25mins and lose her to another guy within a minute. On the street they call this 'a robbery'. I say wow. When I mean lose her I mean the guy, guy B, that approach guy A's target, gets guy A target within 2 minutes and end up leaving with guys A target at the end of the night.

    - Second to last, do not think relationship

    Just because you see, meet, greet, or talk to a girl doesnt mean she is looking for a relationship. Rule of thumbs, it is a woman's role to seek a relationship. It is your duty as a man to be a host: fun, entertaining, vibrant, and passionate. Do not assume anything, thats another rule. Do not think for her, think for yourself. That doesnt mean be selfish but you need to think she doesnt know what she wants I will show her what she is missing out on, 'ta dahhh'.

    Studies show women are good emotional dissectors. They can read your emotions through your behaviour, body language and choice of words within a fraction of a second. Scary isnt it? Thats why the 3second rule. So you do not want to come off desperate or boring or typical. You do not want to show that you are looking for 'the one'. It is a game of predator - prey. You are the hunter(in a good way) and you are hunting your prey. Preys are typically smart and they know their environment and they know their predators so the slightest noise while grazing will scary them sh1tless and to some extent cause them to run for it.

    - Finally, know where you stand

    This should be attached to 'Know your target'. I remember in psychology class my professor said women within a split second can tell a lot about a guy: if she is going to have sex with him or not, if she will even give him the time or day (full atttention) or not, or if she even finds him attractive or not. You have to know where you stand when you do your opener. Some women will show interest way ahead of time before you reach your transitional point which means you can jump a few steps. So if she is showing interest, show her that you like her by dropping jokes, challenging her, doing your dosage of kino etc. etc.
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    Default Re: My observation about women and other guys out in the field

    Epic post mate

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    Default Re: My observation about women and other guys out in the field

    Quote Originally Posted by linking View Post
    Epic post mate

    Linking x
    I second that. This is really good. Great job!
    "The world will never change much less become what you want it to be. The only thing that can change is you. Face your fears, grow stronger and become what you want to be."
    _Xavier.

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    Default Re: My observation about women and other guys out in the field

    I love the part about fear and learning from it. Its so true... i look back on college... had 1 HB7 and 2 HB9 easily give me ioi's before and after class. Each time i screwed it up (didnt engage one if the 9's, didn't escalate and got friendzoned by the other 9 and couldny close the 7 EVEN THOUGH we were in front of her house AND parents werent home!).

    Its funny to me now but i learned from it. Your post has everything i needed bsck then. And also, i look back at it POSITIVELY. Sure i lost out but AT LEAST i was getting attention without trying! That is huge! Keeps me hungry to learn more and more to up my game.
    Between men and women there is no friendship possible. There is passion, enmity, worship, love, but no friendship.
    Oscar Wilde



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