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    Default Where I'm At - Cody

    Hey Guys,

    It's two in the a.m. and I've got a lot on my mind. I love the Member's Lounge for purposes such as these. It just goes to show how pickup goes far beyond women.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, because I'm still having trouble comprehending the magnitude of this semester: This semester blows. For real, and it blows my mind how much it sucks (Ha. Blows/sucks, get it? They're self-conflicting.). I really should be doing homework right now but I don't care. There are more important things and I'm struggling with that too. It's a Friday night and I had to stay in when my friends wanted me to go out. Don't get me wrong, I understand that I have to get sh*t done from time to time, but not ALL the time. Because that's what I do. I go hard. All the time.

    I was having a chat with one of the few bros (Real bro) that I have. We talked about a few things which later stimulated more thought, which by extention brought about legitimate cause for the following conclusions:

    I really don't give a f*ck about school. I think it's a huge joke. Actually, I KNOW that it's a huge joke. Our education system is complete bullsh*t, and what's even worse is that it has become a requirement for the world to take you seriously. My grades are slipping somehow, even though I'm trying harder than ever. I think it's because I used to believe that getting a college education--and by college education I mean the education that I obtained from the content within college courses--would actually get me somewhere, but I'm finding out that I don't need it. I have the drive, and that's all that truly matters.

    I'm depresed, but not because I have Depression. I'm depressed because I have everything that I've ever wanted except the money. Girls are so far off the spectrum it's not even funny. I get girls because I don't care about them, which is a sad truth. And it never used to be that way. Three years ago I found success by measure with women, but now it's financial gain--I did it backwards of every other top MPUA in The Game. So I don't "care" about women anymore. Not to mention this is a sh*tty time in my life to run game, just f*cking around wasting time.

    I never understood why people don't like to talk numbers. I don't know whether it makes them uncomfortable, or maybe just that their parents told them not to talk about it, but I do because it makes everything seem that much more real. When I graduate, I'll be just shy of $70,000 in debt. If something doesn't change, I'll be on a 20 year plan, and I'll be damned if that happens to me. Right now, and I mean RIGHT NOW I have business ideas, and big ones at that. Some really cool sh*t. And, well...

    I'd like to pursue that wholeheartedly, and until I meet recognizable financial success I probably won't be helping newbies anymore. I just don't have the time. Top 30, holla at me, because I consider you all friends, but I've got a new project that I want to tackle and I won't be coming back until I'm near the top.

    Feedback would be great. Thanks

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    Default Re: Where I'm At - Cody

    Cody, I know what you mean, I'm in a similar boat and have gotten most of the holes plugged (you know... to stop the leaks... because of the boat metaphor... lol)

    Read "The Defining Decade" by Meg Jay
    ISBN 978 0 446 56176 1

    It talks a lot about how most 20-somethings these days (for a few cultural reasons described in the book) find themselves with difficulty connecting thier current situation with future goals. The first section talks about carreer, the second about relationships, the third about the brain/body connection. (Kinda like MM's Wealth, Health, Love - right? I thought that was neat)

    Anyway, some of the stuff in it might help you decide how to manage the juncture where you find yourself.
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    Default Re: Where I'm At - Cody

    You whining wimp haha. Roll a joint and relax...

    Just kidding mate. One thing to remember when you're at college is you have little in the way of financial or business savy successful peers. You have other students and you have lecturers. That changes when you get into a career because you begin to have mentors and a much wider scope for where you can go. Many hands make light work. In university you're all kinda on your own. I had no money at university and afterwards because of debt but they were some of the best times I had...especially because you and your friends are not tied down into heavy duty commitments. The more money you make the more you spend. It's all relative. People will love you for your virtues, not your car or job. Good relationships are what last. I dont remember projects and career success more than I remember great fun people I have worked with. I like jobs Ive had because of the people I worked with more than anything else. You're still young you can't see around all the corners ahead of you so enjoy the moment. I did well at high school, average at university but excelled once I left...because mostly college education does suck. It can't possibly bridge the gap between general high school and real life.

    You CAN give a fark about women and still get them too

    Ive travelled the world - the biggest smiles I ever saw were on the people who had nothing and the least happy people Ive met had too much money. The man who is happy with nothing is the man who has everything. Most people who appear to have lots of money are also heavily in debt (like you feel now). I dont have huge amounts - a modest house, a 4wd that can go anywhere...but I have no debt because I keep my goals honest and simple. All I need is an acoustic guitar to make life a rainbow. But I love my life, every day I am happy and I value great friendships. All the guys I know with money are wankers or balding and work too much in boring professions haha. My bosses are rich but stressed. You dont run a company, the company runs you and they never have time for their children. Fark that, I want to be a freebird.

    Good luck in your mission, we are here for a good time not a long time.

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    Default Re: Where I'm At - Cody

    Thanks Guys,

    Everything IS relative. I have relatively good friends. I have a good family. I like to fancy myself a quality person, but in the end we want what we never had. I grew up watching my dad blow money on sh*t we didn't need. A new fishing boat? Or my college education? You can imagine which he picked. His priorities were...his. And that's fine. I'm over it and it's in the past, but that doesn't change the fact. You can tell me all you want to be happy with what I have, but the hungry are still hungry, and the naked want clothes (most of them ). Everything is relatively, including necessities.

    Before I got into pickup I was a die hard Christian who planned on going into seminary after undergrad. I know virtues. I get it, I just don't care anymore. My uncle worked 15 years at a quarry, making his way up the ladder until he became an explosives technician. One day he went to work and they gave him a pink slip. The other went into the Marines because he didn't have any other choice. I come from trash whose children are trash. I want out of the cycle. I want social mobility. I want out of the oppression.

    Mainstream pickup has a history of guys who didn't find happiness in financial success, so they searched for it in women. I do not fit that mold.

    Knowledge is power, but only to those who can capitalize from it. I appreciate your warning but it isn't sufficient in covering the scars of poverty. Yes, there are many much worse off than me, but I don't care. I want to be able to afford dental. I want to take my mother to all the places my dad never paid close enough attention to notice she wanted to go. I want to buy my friends gifts for no other reason than because I can.

    You're probably right, Whitedragon, but I need to find that out on my own.
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    Default Re: Where I'm At - Cody

    Listen, if you're thinking about quitting school, I can advice you not to do so. I got kicked off and now I'm having trouble finding a job because everything requires some sort of specialized diploma. I know you have a dream and a plan but what you want in the future and what you'll get.... man, those are somewhat different most of the time, and there's not much you can do about that. Not everything is controllable. I'd say keep your options open. Work on your business idea BESIDES schoolwork, not instead of.

    Personally, I don't give a rat's *rear end* about money, as long as I can eat and live. But then again, I also know discovering things teaches you a lot more than being told something and thus never experiencing, so I'd say go find out money doesn't equal happiness.

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    Default Re: Where I'm At - Cody

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Hey Guys,

    It's two in the a.m. and I've got a lot on my mind. I love the Member's Lounge for purposes such as these. It just goes to show how pickup goes far beyond women.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, because I'm still having trouble comprehending the magnitude of this semester: This semester blows. For real, and it blows my mind how much it sucks (Ha. Blows/sucks, get it? They're self-conflicting.). I really should be doing homework right now but I don't care. There are more important things and I'm struggling with that too. It's a Friday night and I had to stay in when my friends wanted me to go out. Don't get me wrong, I understand that I have to get sh*t done from time to time, but not ALL the time. Because that's what I do. I go hard. All the time.

    I was having a chat with one of the few bros (Real bro) that I have. We talked about a few things which later stimulated more thought, which by extention brought about legitimate cause for the following conclusions:

    I really don't give a f*ck about school. I think it's a huge joke. Actually, I KNOW that it's a huge joke. Our education system is complete bullsh*t, and what's even worse is that it has become a requirement for the world to take you seriously. My grades are slipping somehow, even though I'm trying harder than ever. I think it's because I used to believe that getting a college education--and by college education I mean the education that I obtained from the content within college courses--would actually get me somewhere, but I'm finding out that I don't need it. I have the drive, and that's all that truly matters.

    I'm depresed, but not because I have Depression. I'm depressed because I have everything that I've ever wanted except the money. Girls are so far off the spectrum it's not even funny. I get girls because I don't care about them, which is a sad truth. And it never used to be that way. Three years ago I found success by measure with women, but now it's financial gain--I did it backwards of every other top MPUA in The Game. So I don't "care" about women anymore. Not to mention this is a sh*tty time in my life to run game, just f*cking around wasting time.

    I never understood why people don't like to talk numbers. I don't know whether it makes them uncomfortable, or maybe just that their parents told them not to talk about it, but I do because it makes everything seem that much more real. When I graduate, I'll be just shy of $70,000 in debt. If something doesn't change, I'll be on a 20 year plan, and I'll be damned if that happens to me. Right now, and I mean RIGHT NOW I have business ideas, and big ones at that. Some really cool sh*t. And, well...

    I'd like to pursue that wholeheartedly, and until I meet recognizable financial success I probably won't be helping newbies anymore. I just don't have the time. Top 30, holla at me, because I consider you all friends, but I've got a new project that I want to tackle and I won't be coming back until I'm near the top.

    Feedback would be great. Thanks

    -Cody
    This isn't the first time u're struggling with this. u wanna know a secret i do to.
    U're right a degree is just for show and it's u're drive that will get u things but still u need to get it. Think of it as a safety net that's what i do. Plus, this is u're last year isn't it? it's not worth dropping out.
    As for the girls, I met a girl, an NDR, a week ago and she's forcing me to care about her i don't know how she's doing it. I'm the guy that always says don't loose focus and don't let infatuation get the best of you somehow i'm not able too but let's not make it about me. U will meet a girl like that i promise.
    As for the money, i thank God that it's not that big of a problem for me but i wouldn't mind getting filthy rich.
    What kind of buisness ideas do u have?
    "The world will never change much less become what you want it to be. The only thing that can change is you. Face your fears, grow stronger and become what you want to be."
    _Xavier.

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    Default Re: Where I'm At - Cody

    I've actually got one year yet after this.

    Don't worry guys, I won't drop out of school. As stupid as it is, I still know that I won't get anywhere without a degree. So yeah, it's high priority.

    I guess what PU is to me isn't what it used to be. I used to be down for ONS's and bouncebacks and all that jazz, but now it's just empty. For those who haven't hit it yet, you will. Now I'm at a place where I just want MLTR's with beautiful women, even if they're only platonic. Sex is overrated. I know I don't want a girlfriend. I don't care about that right now. Also, being in college I have to go OUT OF MY WAY to run cold approach PU.

    It's just not what it used to be. I used to consider being a professional PUA as a job, but after talking to some of the biggest names in the game I'm finding out that their financial success is only an illusion. You all can condemn me all you want, but you're no different that me, wanting what you never had. That's why you're all (infinitive) here, because somewhere along the line your socialization process got f*cked up and f*cked you over with women.

    I feel like I'm following in Ciaran's footsteps, only less extreme. Rs5096 said it: Game is holistic. This is my life; all of it. I'm a real person with real struggles, and it means a lot how much you have all been here for me.

    As far as business goes, I gotta keep that sh*t secret . Can't be lettin' my good ideas out.

    If this is confusing, it's because I'm confused and just trying to sort sh*t out. Regardless, I'll be at the summit I consider you all my friends and want to hang out and shoot the breeze. I mean, if you expext me to give a speech or something I don't really know what I'd talk about, but I'm still down, lol.
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    Default Re: Where I'm At - Cody

    hey,if the debt is too bad you could consider moving to a cheaper college, (west virginia has some of the cheapest colleges in the nation) (like 3000 a semester + dorms(another 2000) but thats still not bad considering your circumstances, you don't have to, i'm just stating the fact. as for the financial world pua has unlimited applications to buisness,politics,re ligioun,and any number of other feilds of work. being a pua isn't just about improving your success with wemon, it is about improving the quality of your life in general. we all have times of crisis in our lives, and how we deal with them greatly affects who we become, stick with college, get a job and a cheap car (i like subaru), save every peny you can to put towards your debt, you may have to suffer a few years without the greatest of commodities, but you will get your debt payed off. as for the forum, these guys need you, you have helped us out countless times, and we can not repay you for all you have committed to us and our success, weather you stay with us or not, your legacy will countinue to inspire young pua's all over the world. thanks for every bit of incouragement,advice ,and countinued support you have given me on my journey,
    you will be missed dearly, :'(
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    Default Re: Where I'm At - Cody

    I know what you mean, ONLs aren't the least bit fulfilling. Strong MLTRs give you some sort of a connection and you can see if a girl is worthwhile

    Glad to see you change your mind on college. Worthless, not completely but the sentiment is understood. But you're right, and Virgil is right, if your other dreams fall through and your 5 years out without your degree, pretty dang hard to pick up. Consider the degree your fall back

    And women your pass time. Maybe

    5 years out, still paying off college and not using my degree. But the degree still got me in the right direction

    No regrets on college, and I still love every bit of game

    We're here man, slow it down but maybe pop back in for an update every few weeks, would be a loss to the community to see ya gone
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    Default Re: Where I'm At - Cody

    Cody...shut the hell up.

    You know I've got nothing but respect for you, and I consider you a close friend. That's why I'm calling bullsh!t.

    How many times have we (all of us) told the newbies that their validation and confidence has to come from themselves and not the women they're trying to pick up. Hundreds of times. And yet you don't see the connection here? Your happiness doesn't come from any place, any thing, or any one. If that's what you're looking for then you'll just end up chasing different ways to find what can't be found. You've got to be happy with yourself, who you are, and what you can do.

    When I was in Middle School and all the way up till Sophomore year, I was a loser. I wanted friends but was too afraid of my classmates, so I tried being someone I "knew" they'd like. I tried on so many different personalities and getups and identities that I completely screwed myself up inside. By the end of it all I had no idea who I was and was still chasing after friends. Then I finally got so fed up with trying to make everyone else happy that I broke the cycle. I decided right then and there that I was going to be the kind of person I liked being and that was going to be that. I got the chance to redefine myself, and for the first time since Preschool, I was happy. Truly happy. Because while friends were still important, they didn't define me.

    Later in High School I decided to get a job. I got hired at a sub shop in Nashville (WhichWich, for Tmalone's sake). I was so psyched to have a job, I had these big illusions of buying the coolest clothes and having the coolest stuff and taking girls (which I wasn't getting) out on dates and impressing them with my fat wallet. The job sucked. My boss was an ass who couldn't handle running 3 locations at once, my managers were either braindead or tightasses, and even though the customers loved me and I was as good at anyone else at making sandwiches (I can't tell you how many times I had to do every job on the line myself. There are supposed to be 4 workers; 1 on the register and 3 making the subs) I still got sh1t cause I was the youngest. I made several hundred dollars a week, and I'd work from right after school till around midnight every day. I was miserable, and I barely even noticed the money. I had no time to spend it. Eventually I got let go cause the boss had hired too many people and he figured I was leaving for college soon anyway. Driving home after getting fired was probably the happiest I've ever been.

    This has nothing to do with the money or women or college or anything else you might be chasing after. Believe me, man, I've been there. All you can do is be happy with yourself. That's where your happiness should come from, not money or women. So stop harping on how miserable everything is, because that's not helping anyone. Put this whole situation into frame. Start focusing on what you've got to be proud of, reasons why you should be happy and content instead of freaking out. You're a great guy with a lot going for you, it shouldn't be that hard. And for god sake's, smile more. It does wonders.

    Don't stress yourself out. You're in college, and while I know it feels like there's a lot of pressure, there really isn't. And yeah, the educational system's pretty sh1tty, but it's still educational. Learn what you can.

    You've always got us, Cody. And I'm always an email away.
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