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Thread: Ranking Hotties By Difficulty (Community Project)

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    Default Ranking Hotties By Difficulty (Community Project)

    CALLING ALL SERIOUS PUAs!

    Many discussions go on here and I always notice that people comment "oh man... she wil be a challenge" or "nah... those girls are easy to game." So I figured, why not start a list of each type of HOTTIE, summarize how to game them, challenges involved, most valuable techniques to use, and rank the difficulty of gaming each (on a 1 to 10 scale, in no particular order).

    A Quick Reference list like this will be useful so all of us can have a SUPER - BASIC guide to gaming specific women. It's a thing I see as a community project. So I hope you will all like the idea and can participate. I will try to catagorize as much as possible to make the list exhaustive. I was thinking of adding Specific Aspects of the game to this and rank them but that will need much research and interviews. EX. Kino rating for MILF 10 (Very Important). KINO rating for College Girl 2 (NOT important). But I figure most are variable to each specific woman. And let's face it... some things like KINO are ALWAYS a top priority haha.

    I am almost sure I will update this with version 2.0 and stuff as time goes on so I hope you guys dig the concept and want to help me out. There's no deadline so if anyone wants to post about a particular one, you can spend months writing it (I know I probably will LOL). As more people participate, I will edit the writeup to include each PUA's take on it (and give full credit). As long as that PUA touches on some new ground. Examples given of what to ACTUALLY say or do must be short.

    Please assume a PUA age of 25 - 30. For older/younger catagories, imagine at leat a 10-15 year age difference. Always assume that the type of women is some kind of challenge (ex. Assume you are not as rich as a woman in the Rich catagory)
    Catagories can be adjusted if we need to get more specific (ex. older woman vs older woman with kids) or even deleted altogether. Any suggestions are welcome. Here's a first draft list:

    - Older women (including single moms)
    - Attached Women (including Married Women)
    - Younger Women
    - College Girls (whom you actually go to school with)
    - Athletic/Work Out Girls
    - Smart Girls (including Quiet girls/Nerdy Girls)
    - Ball Busting Girls
    - UNDERAGE GIRLS (C'mon now... some stuff needs to be said on WHY 17 year olds SHOULD NOT BE GAMED. Also, if your 50 and you are gaming a 19 year old, that COULD be considered underage. Comments about the validity of this catagory are welcome.)
    - HB 10 (I catagorize strippers, Models, TV stars all as 10 automatically. Even if they're not that hot, they are in demand and will act like an HB 10. If the catagories should be broken up, LMK)
    - Princesses (girls who think they are all that)
    - Rich Women/Super Classy women (girls who have a more valid claim to be all that)
    - Party Girls
    Let me know your thoughts!
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    Default Re: Ranking Hotties By Difficulty (Community Project)

    i like the concept, let me start this off by giving my two cents on the kinds of wemon i've had the chance to game,

    attached/married- they are easier to flirt with and make friendly convorsation with, however it is alot harder to close anything but a number and your extremely likely to get friendzoned

    college girls- college game is a hole beast of its own kind, they are the wild cards, you realy can't generalize the college girl concept, because it is the categorie that by far has the most sub categories. however they all have some things in common, they are easier to open(when on campus) they want to meet new people, but there is a likelyhood that you will end up gaming her and alot of people she knows, so i would recomend staying away from canned routines with them.

    partygirls- if you game them at a party, be prepared to compete with every other guy there! you will get amogged a bunch if your not careful, and if you mess up with one or two of them, the word will quickly spread through their ranks that your an a$$hole

    underage- these girls can be easier or harder to game, depending on your age and how alpha you are compared to them, many of them actually look for older college guys (18-20) they see us as more mature and stable than there male counterparts, ntm that they primarily seek men with lots of social proof

    these are just some of the types of girls i have experience with, (i am in college and their aren't too many super models in west virginia) anyone else is welcome too elaborate on my points

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    Default Re: Ranking Hotties By Difficulty (Community Project)

    the types of girls that i have experience with and my two cents on each

    classier girls- my all time favorite, pretty difficult to get with the few that i have had but if you start dating them it is so much more worth it.

    models- dated a couple, slept with a few more, not terribly difficult to get with, but i dont suggest dating them, every single one ive dated have played so many farking games its ridiculous

    inteligent- namely psychology or sociology students, very difficult to get with, even harder to date, but they dont play the games as much as you would think they do

    i guess the only input i have is that i think that something should be included into the rating system indicating wether your trying to date or sleep with them, because on here there is an equal amount of both.
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    Default Re: Ranking Hotties By Difficulty (Community Project)

    Personally I'm not crazy about the idea. I understand the necessity of judging a girl by her looks, that's a lot more objective. But categorizing them based on their personality...I feel like that might be crossing a line. I just don't think you can accurately simplify an entire human being, with all their experiences, quirks, and thought processes, into categories.

    I'm worried that if we start judging girls by looks and personality, we'll be turning them into codes and not real human beings. I don't want to log on to read "Textbook Lay PG 9." instead of "Met this crazy HB9 and had the best night of my life."

    I don't know about you guys, but I love women. They're incredible. They're confusing and sometimes unbelievably frustrating, but they're worth it. I love getting to know them, I love being around them, and I love that they love me. That's what being a PUA is really about right? So why would we Take Away what makes them so enticing?
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    Default Re: Ranking Hotties By Difficulty (Community Project)

    I agree with bandit it's a good idea in it would probably help us game girls but I'm finding it hard that every time a girl walks past I think blonde HB7 before even considering what she might be like as a person :L so if we start categorising them as well this is only going to get worse :
    L I love talking to a girl and having to be quick thinking enough to adapt games and routines to suit her personality, if we categorise her personality that's going to be taken away...and tbh the chase is more fun than the end result to me, don't wana make it too easy lol

    Linking x

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    Default Re: Ranking Hotties By Difficulty (Community Project)

    LockDown I love this idea! I'm always down for a good thorough analysis and cataloguing session. *gathers notebooks* I'll be back here soon!

    @Bandit I definitely hear what you're saying. The more I categorize people by personality the more I find dating to be like sitting backstage at a puppet show. Loss that thrill if wonder and mystique, of not knowing and being surprised by what kind of amazing conversation might happen by chance, rather than knowing her type and looking up in a "textbook" what kind of conversation she'll find amazing.

    But I also know that what works perfectly for one personality type will immediately blow out another (perhaps my abundance Mindset is slipping a bit lol) More importantly though I think personality awareness is the only way to "win" the game, which is my personal goal. I think this personality list will help guys on here think about what they really want; like they'll read it and think "Oh, THAT'S what it's going to take for me to land a modelORprofessorORmi lf? Forget that, it isn't me! She's not my type, I'll go for the [whatever else typer personality]…

    There is certainly the risk that, in knowing what different types of behaviora attract doffrrent types of girls, guys will alter their game (and themselves) to attract specific types of women; I think with that caution in mind personality profilong can help a PUA become more ture to himself and screen out any girls who's personalities don't match who he is. That's how the game is won IMO

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    Default Re: Ranking Hotties By Difficulty (Community Project)

    Interesting. I didn't think there would be any ideas that a list was a bad idea.

    My intention is to make a simple list... mostly for fun... so that we can see challenges that may come up. I mean, I live close to NYC so I may run into one one of these days. I have never gamed a Model, but if I happen to meet one, it would be awesome to pull up this list via phone real quick and get a few quick pointers on how to game.

    Plus, maybe it would lessen the threads newbies always post where they ask the same things. We could be like "Check out this list and search for the techniques they mention on there." Kinda like fastseduction has a term where they tell newbies RTFM (read the freakin manual) before you post a question.

    Also, IF this list happens, anyone who didn't want to read it could just NOT click on it.
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    Default Re: Ranking Hotties By Difficulty (Community Project)

    I agree with Autismus that you have to pre-screen. Adam Lyons talks a lot about pre-screening and qualifications (there are a few hour long videos of him giving seminars). You can tune your pre-screening to attract almost any type of girl. Qualifications will help you achieve this goal. I've encountered some girls who are extremely flirty but after attraction and comfort, when i sexually escalate the situation they seem to be uncomfortable. By using qualifications you can easily find out if the girl is into you, if she's a virgin, if she's DTF etc. Ultimately you have to know what you want and not change yourself completely but mold yourself into the best version of yourself.

    Quick note on bitchy/difficult girls:
    Personally, if i fark up a set or get a bitchy response, instead of blaming the girl, i assess where i could have improved. The bitchy girl in a set is usually the mother hen (or alpha-female or HB -0) and she's giving you a hard time because:
    1. Testing for congruency (will you crack under the pressure?)
    2. She's jealous you're hitting on her friend (if you're being direct)

    For situation 2, you can extract if possible or just totally ignore her since you're already direct with your intentions.

    for your viewing pleasure, these are two of my favorite pick ups of all time:
    *there's so much going on in these two vids, i plan to do a break down sometime in the near future:
    go to youtube and type "best of keys to the vip"
    and watch the 2nd and 3rd videos, Rob and Kyle.

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    Default Re: Ranking Hotties By Difficulty (Community Project)

    First draft! Comments welcome!

    Girls at work (new job situation). Difficulty: Variable

    This is a category that is tricky. In my opinion, aside from Night Game, this aspect of PickUp takes the strongest inner game. These girls work with u, you will spend a large chunk of your life with them. They will see you mad, stressed, frustrated, happy... the whole gamut. So being laid back to all the job stress will help big time. But that doesn't mean you should not care about your work. Being good at your job, being knowledgeable, good with customers, taking responsibility for your mistakes, and supporting coworkers who maybe are having it rough... all good dhv. Also, having fun is key. Find something you like about your job... anything. The more fun and positive you are, the more you will keep proper Mindset.

    This is why i say the difficulty is variable. There is alot involved with inner game here, so if you dont think you want to worry about inner game, then u will have a hard time.

    The way to game on the job (aside from the above) is simple. You will see these women often. If you all have the same shift, do not give any attention at first. You have to think long term. If you give attention right away, its clingy. Hang back, worry about your responsibilities first. Keep busy. Don't be approaching within the first day or two at least. And if you do approach, make it more of an accidental thing (ex using copy machine) and be prepared with a simple hey or possibly a tease if she is a super hottie. And Freeze Out for a few days (except the occasional good morning etc).

    This strategy works because YOU WILL SEE THESE GIRLS CONSTANTLY. There is no need to rush. All the other guys in the place do that. They give nonstop attention to HBs and easily get friendzoned. Be different! Let the girls work a little to get to know you. As long as you are fun, interesting, smart and outgoing you will not come off as a creep. Eventually, you can start visiting others desks, but again, don't do it often.

    Also, I personally find success by keeping my business to myself. Alot of coworkers proclaim their plans well in advance to as many people as possible. They are looking for approval. You need no approval. So if your going to do something interesting this weekend, wait for monday when you will get the inevitable "how was your weekend?" to elaborate. If no one asks, even better. You can save those stories for later. Then too, dont throw names around too often (like your friends, or even other coworkers). Girls who are interested will want to know what u do outside work. Keep up the mystery as much as possible! The last thing you want is for her to know who your close buddies are before you even date her lol. Keeping mysterious adds to your ability to tell stories tenfold. If she knows your friend Joe is funny, then she already knows how stories with him will go. But if you keep Joe's name out of it, its a different story/friend every time. More bang for your buck.

    CAUTIONS: If get something going at work... be prepared because it can go WRONG. VERY WRONG. If the break up is bad, your private life will be exposed to everyone. Even if its going well, she may still be so into you that she will tell other workers about you. That will kill your game with other girls and again put your info out there. And that may lead to a whole bunch of work related repercussions. Thats why many PUA say just don't do it lol!
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    Default Re: Ranking Hotties By Difficulty (Community Project)

    HB 10 (I catagorize strippers, Models, TV stars all as 10 automatically. Even if they're not that hot, they are in demand and will act like an HB 10. If the catagories should be broken up, LMK)
    They are called SHB. (30)
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