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Thread: What are Group IoI's?

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    Default What are Group IoI's?

    Whats up guys...

    I'm now learning how to open groups and get social approval from them.

    The thing is that in my studies, i've learned that when you are socially accepted by a group (3+ people), you get Group ioi's, which, naturally, are signals of interest sended by the group it self (not only from the target)

    The thing is that the framework i'm focusing on (MM), at least in the materials that i already have, do not specifie what are those Group IoI's.

    I'm here to ask you what they are... how they occour and when they are most likely to occour.

    So, that's about it. I'm new blood up here but so far,so good. What you guys have here is awesome.

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    Default Re: What are Group IoI's?

    you are overthinking this one, group ioi's are just the combination of ioi's from multiple members of the group, having group acceptance is when the majority of the group gives you ioi's. you don't have to win over every group member to have group acceptance, but idealy you use group acceptance to win over any "obstacles". for instance if you can gain the acceptance of the guys in a mixed set, it deminishes the possibility of getting amogged by them, also winning over the hearts and minds of the targets friends will definately make it easier to gain acceptance from the target and prevent her friends from sabotaging your game

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    Default Re: What are Group IoI's?

    Alright...so... how can i get those guys liking me? In clubs, they are trying all the time to be cocky and put other guys down for the girls.

    In a club situation, at least down here in Brazil, the guys are really stupid.

    So, how can i desarm them?
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    Default Re: What are Group IoI's?

    if you want to Disarm them, you just need to keep a better frame than theirs and make it look like they are trying to impress the girls by trying to make fun of you. this should help
    http://www.puaforums.com/game/17574-...e-control.html
    it applies to dealing with amogs as well as getting girls. check it out.

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    Default Re: What are Group IoI's?

    Guys in groups can be tough to win over but if you come in with the right frame then it will be easy. Come in as a friendly, cool social guy and they should be receptive. Find common topics to talk to do guys about, in the UK I use my vast knowledge about football to find this common ground since football is a big sport here. Something like "Did you guys see xxx goals on the weekend? Was a beauty". Its quite socially acceptable to be into football. If a guy isn't he's generally seen as a bit of poof lol but that's one example, use the principle of common ground to win them over.
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    Default Re: What are Group IoI's?

    i have to agree with you sohan, building raport with the guys helps to keep them from backstabbing you,but if they try to AMOG you, then you have to go on the offense with frame control.

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    Default Re: What are Group IoI's?

    That's the all important balance when it comes to going far in this game. It's all about being a cool, friendly guy and keeping your composure and not taking shit. Most people get the balance wrong and are either too friendly and get AMOGed or on the opposite side of the spectrum and become massive jerks or becoming too alpha in a sense therefore looking insecure allowing them to get AMOGed anyway.

    I prefer to be sly about the whole thing, just make friends and then swoop in and take the girl. Did this with a group of 8 freshers and 1 girl but they where all AFCs lol.
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    Default Re: What are Group IoI's?

    I jus' cant agree more with you mate.

    We need this balance, otherwise all the bad aspect of the extremes (too "alpha dog" or too nice/friendly) will get back right in your face in field.
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